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peoli

(3,111 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:29 PM Jun 2014

Va. legislators want to create a ‘Redskins Pride Caucus’

Source: Washington Post

For Del. David Ramadan, the Washington Redskins’ name is a source of pride that shouldn’t be messed with.

Ramadan (R-Loudon), a fan since the mid-1980s, said he plans to form a “Redskins Pride Caucus” with Del. Jackson Miller (R-Manassas), Sen. Chap Petersen (D-Fairfax City) and other Virginia legislators to represent fans of the professional football team.

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Ramadan said the caucus plans to provide a voice for fans and season ticket holders, as well as support for the team franchise. He argues that the team is a Virginia-based business that generates hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.

The caucus opposes the involvement of the U.S. Congress. Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) and 49 other members of Congress sent a letter last month to the National Football League urging the league to change the Redskins name. Ramadan said the letter-writing members should “go work on other issues and leave our Virginia businesses alone.”



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-legislators-want-to-create-a-redskins-pride-caucus/2014/06/23/6f691fbe-faf5-11e3-932c-0a55b81f48ce_story.html

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Va. legislators want to create a ‘Redskins Pride Caucus’ (Original Post) peoli Jun 2014 OP
And they wonder why they can't get more minorities to vote for them. drm604 Jun 2014 #1
Seriously. KamaAina Jun 2014 #5
Presumably he's refusing to let the PC police push him around. JoeyT Jun 2014 #19
Ramadan???? a muslim republican? hmmm nt msongs Jun 2014 #2
Ramadan? Is he sure he's 'Merkin? KamaAina Jun 2014 #3
He's Lebanese-American. alp227 Jun 2014 #6
... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #4
+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #18
LOL, biggest case of First World Problems. alp227 Jun 2014 #7
The Republican mantra, "I'm an ignorant bigot and I'm PROUD!" catbyte Jun 2014 #8
That pretty much sums it up theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #16
Well, it's a failure christx30 Jun 2014 #20
And how am I supposed to do that? They are empathy free. It only catbyte Jun 2014 #21
And you probably won't be able to, honestly. christx30 Jun 2014 #24
What a bunch of clueless fuckwits. blackspade Jun 2014 #9
He won his election to the legislature by 51 votes. kwassa Jun 2014 #10
Clueless hangfire00 Jun 2014 #11
yep charlives Jun 2014 #12
Please meet publicly on a reservation and see if you don't get your asses kicked! muntrv Jun 2014 #13
Money,Money, Moneee hangfire00 Jun 2014 #14
With all the dickhead bigots hiding behind "team pride" armed_and_liberal Jun 2014 #15
I think he means a "Racist Pride Caucus". olddad56 Jun 2014 #17
So they are proud LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #22
Okay. Have they seen how the 'Skins have played over the past 22 years? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #23

drm604

(16,230 posts)
1. And they wonder why they can't get more minorities to vote for them.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jun 2014

And WTF is up with Democrat Chap Petersen?

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
19. Presumably he's refusing to let the PC police push him around.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:23 AM
Jun 2014

I notice they didn't invite any actual NAs to their stupidfest. Not that we'd show up if they had, but still.

alp227

(32,018 posts)
7. LOL, biggest case of First World Problems.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jun 2014

These brave guys would never dare call a Native America a "redskin" to his face, huh?

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
16. That pretty much sums it up
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:29 PM
Jun 2014

It's not that they "don't get it". They get it all right -- they're just proud to be racists!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. Well, it's a failure
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:02 AM
Jun 2014

of our side to give them a reason to care. You say "having the name is wrong because it's offensive". They say "who gives a rio?" They say they don't care about offending people, and people are free to spend their money elsewhere.
The problem you present to them is not a problem in their eyes. Like if they say "gay marriage" is wrong because God doesn't like it." We reject that as a reason to not have gay marriage because most of us don't believe in God, or we think God approves. The "consequence" they are threatening isn't real to us.
We are saying the the Redskins name is offensive to people. But they know that there are enough people that either don't care, or like the name (and just want to watch football, damn the politics). So they don't have to care about offending people. So give them a reason to care.

catbyte

(34,374 posts)
21. And how am I supposed to do that? They are empathy free. It only
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:19 AM
Jun 2014

matters when it effects them personally.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
24. And you probably won't be able to, honestly.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:39 PM
Jun 2014

People are going to do what they are going to do. Don't like the team name, don't pay to go to their games. Don't watch them. You can explain why you are doing it. You can form a boycott, join 1000's of others. But at the end of the day, the people that own the team (and the team's fans) are going to do what they are going to do. They are under no obligation to give a crap about anything. As long as people are going to games, buying drinks and popcorn, buying merchandise, buying advertising when the games are aired. If any of that stops, they'll care.
I mean, I could say that I was creeped out by Flipper when I was a kid, and I find the Miami Dolphins offensive. No one outside my therapist has to care. And the Dolphins will just have to get along without me going to see games.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
9. What a bunch of clueless fuckwits.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jun 2014

There is no 'pride' in the 'redskins' name.
It is a horrid reminder of the barbarism that characterized the European settlement of the Americas.

hangfire00

(27 posts)
14. Money,Money, Moneee
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jun 2014

Until it hits them where it hurts The Wallet. Comm.NoNuts Goodell & the spineless owners who always spout about the integrity of the game will do nothing.Let some player smoke a joint, ohh my my after all they are role models we cannot have that tsk tsk even worse they have a union.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
23. Okay. Have they seen how the 'Skins have played over the past 22 years?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jun 2014

How could anyone take any sort of pride in that?

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