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mahatmakanejeeves

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Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:32 PM Jun 2014

Asiana Crash Pilots Overreliant on Automation, NTSB Says

Source: Bloomberg

By Alan Levin Jun 24, 2014 10:46 AM ET

Pilots of the Asiana Airlines Inc. (020560) plane that crashed in San Francisco last year relied too much on cockpit automation they didn’t understand, an investigator said at the start of a hearing to establish the accident’s cause.

The U.S. National Transportation Safety Board today is discussing recommendations to address how flight crews interact with the computerized systems of modern airliners, acting agency Chairman Christopher Hart said in opening remarks.

“The more complex automation becomes, the more challenging it is to ensure that the pilots adequately understand it,” he said.
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The pilots mismanaged their approach to the airport, failed to notice the deteriorating speed and lights near the runway showing they were too low, and then didn’t to abort the touchdown, which they were trained to do in such circumstances, according to the NTSB.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-24/asiana-crash-pilots-overreliant-on-automation-ntsb-says.html



The hearing is being webcast right now. At the same time, the IRS is being grilled by the House, so it's a wealth of videos at the moment. I think you can view the NTSB hearing via podcast later on. All this technology has me baffled.

Board Meeting: Crash of Asiana Airlines flight 214 in California

Another link, this one to a trade magazine: NTSB points to pilot error in Asiana Flight 214 crash
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Asiana Crash Pilots Overreliant on Automation, NTSB Says (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2014 OP
SF Chronicle article alp227 Jun 2014 #1
I believe the FCC should conduct its own investigation Brother Buzz Jun 2014 #2
The avionics generate plenty of aural warnings. rickford66 Jun 2014 #3
Much of the blame is going on Boeing and SFO, versus Asiana davidpdx Jun 2014 #4
they didnt know how to fly the fucking plane Mosby Jun 2014 #5

rickford66

(5,491 posts)
3. The avionics generate plenty of aural warnings.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:52 PM
Jun 2014

"GLIDE SLOPE" , "TOO LOW TERRAIN", "TERRAIN TERRAIN", "PULL UP PULL UP WOOP WHOOP", "OBSTACLE OBSTACLE" These I remember from flight simulation of GPWS and EGPWS. They may not all occurred or even in this order, but at least one of them had to have occurred. My apologies to the pilots out there. Most of you take your training very seriously and in my experience are very insistent on every detail of a simulator to be accurate. We had one crew write up the nice controls with no wear. Too new looking for a 727. This was back in the 80's of course.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. Much of the blame is going on Boeing and SFO, versus Asiana
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

The airline is not going to walk away unscathed both in terms of blame and financially. I believe there is a limit on how much passengers can get from an airline based on either injury or death. The rest is going to come from lawsuits.

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