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Judi Lynn

(160,076 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:49 PM Jun 2014

TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘promiscuous’

Source: Raw Story

TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘promiscuous’
By David Edwards
Tuesday, June 24, 2014 14:24 EDT

Court documents submitted by one of four Vanderbilt football players accused of raping an unconscious 21-year-old female student painted her as “promiscuous” and a “drinker.”

Last year, 19-year-old Corey Batey, 20-year-old Brandon Vandenburg, 19-year-old Brandon Banks and 19-year-old Jaborian McKenzie were kicked off the Vanderbilt football team after they were arrested on five counts of rape, and two counts of sexual battery.

Vandenburg, whose dorm room was the alleged scene of the crime, was also charged with tampering with evidence and unlawful photography.

On Monday, his lawyers submitted a 128-page motion in an effort to convince a judge that the case should be dismissed. According to WKRN, the filing included interviews with witnesses that described the victim “as a promiscuous and heavy drinker who had a history of dating football players, even working with (Coach James Franklin) to recruit football players.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/24/tn-football-player-wants-rape-case-dismissed-because-unconscious-victim-was-promiscuous/

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TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘promiscuous’ (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2014 OP
on that value then he was just the same as her, so cancels out his excuse nt msongs Jun 2014 #1
OMG!!!! chervilant Jun 2014 #2
Excuse me while I vomit shenmue Jun 2014 #3
x2 Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #22
Unconscious - that's the key word here LittleGirl Jun 2014 #4
He was unconscious from the neck up when he was taught the difference between right and wrong. QuestForSense Jun 2014 #8
Well, I guess if I ever saw a drunk businessman in an expensive suit passed out somewhere -- radicalliberal Jun 2014 #13
Beware: I've seen videos of undercover cops rocktivity Jun 2014 #15
they're raping unconscious women Skittles Jun 2014 #19
A lawyer, for some reason, thought this was a good defense. Let's hope he doesn't know something Squinch Jun 2014 #5
She was promiscuous while she was unconscious ... aggiesal Jun 2014 #6
I dont care if she was an actual hooker, she was UNCONSCIOUS! Thats RAPE!!!! 7962 Jun 2014 #7
Time for a Reality Check Demeter Jun 2014 #9
Reality check? Consequences? Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #18
So they acknowledge she was unconscious? Summary guilty judgement is in order then. /nt Ash_F Jun 2014 #10
Past the point of being able to say yes or no even when conscious Omaha Steve Jun 2014 #11
A poster on RS makes an interesting observation on the motivation behind this motion. Ash_F Jun 2014 #12
"Poison" the jury pool? Such an unpleasant way of putting it rocktivity Jun 2014 #17
Yea, sooo what? She is not a rapist, freakin asshole. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #14
To steal a line from Airplane! iandhr Jun 2014 #16
Someone should ask George Will what he thinks about that. nt Hekate Jun 2014 #20
To Be or Not To Be... ECHOFIELDS Jun 2014 #21
does being a good defense lawyer have to mean being a shitty human being? nt geek tragedy Jun 2014 #23
They are doing their job. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #24
It's not their job to argue that women who geek tragedy Jun 2014 #25
Not having read the motion, how do you know? AngryAmish Jun 2014 #26
Going to that extreme is the choice of defense geek tragedy Jun 2014 #27
So it's not rape get the red out Jun 2014 #28
"unconscious victim" Nihil Jun 2014 #29
I would like to see a Venn diagram.... sofa king Jun 2014 #30

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
2. OMG!!!!
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jun 2014

Does this cretin actually BELIEVE that his allegations justify his actions?!?!

I hope these four boys will have real consequences for their criminal acts!!!

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
8. He was unconscious from the neck up when he was taught the difference between right and wrong.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jun 2014

And he still is.

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
13. Well, I guess if I ever saw a drunk businessman in an expensive suit passed out somewhere --
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jun 2014

-- I would have the right to help myself to the contents of his wallet. Same principle, isn't it?

By the way, aren't the football players (in this case) promiscuous drinkers themselves? "What's sauce for the
goose . . ."

Squinch

(50,666 posts)
5. A lawyer, for some reason, thought this was a good defense. Let's hope he doesn't know something
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:03 PM
Jun 2014

we don't know.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. Reality check? Consequences?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:16 PM
Jun 2014

Of a college athlete?

At an SEC school?

Well, I guess there's a first time for everything...

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
12. A poster on RS makes an interesting observation on the motivation behind this motion.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jun 2014

"Do they have rape shield laws in Tennessee? If so, it appears counsel may be using a court filing to try their case in the press."

Makes sense. If they can not bring it up at trial, they would do so now in an attempt to poison the jury pool.


shrewd

rocktivity

(44,546 posts)
17. "Poison" the jury pool? Such an unpleasant way of putting it
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:03 PM
Jun 2014

I prefer the more civilized term "pre-trial jury tampering."

By the way, do the players claim that she WASN'T unconscious? Their insisting that she's a promiscuous heavy drinker could end up having the OPPOSITE effect, LOL!


rocktivity

 

ECHOFIELDS

(25 posts)
21. To Be or Not To Be...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:09 PM
Jun 2014

Twas it
Unconscious Promiscuity or
Promiscuous Unconsciousness
That is the question

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
24. They are doing their job.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 07:07 AM
Jun 2014

Last week everyone was defending HRC because she defended a child molester in the 70s.

They both are doing a distasteful job required by the Constitution.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. Going to that extreme is the choice of defense
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 07:29 AM
Jun 2014

counsel to put his client ahead of his own humanity. A lawyer can contest the evidence of rape without claiming that some women deserve to get raped.

There are defense lawyers to whom no act is evil so long as they're doing it on behalf of a client. They're generally the ones who work for the mafia or who in a past life ran concentration camps.

get the red out

(13,456 posts)
28. So it's not rape
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jun 2014

If you can get your buddies to try to defame the character of a woman who you RAPED?

If he's trying to poison the jury pool, I hope this works the opposite of the way he hopes. Anyone willing to rape an unconscious woman then try to defame her deserves even more jail time.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
29. "unconscious victim"
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jun 2014

Given that this came from the counsel for the defence and given that the prosecution
have already stated that the victim was unconscious at the time of the attack, surely
that agreement means that the only point of any trial is to determine how many years
the openly agreed guilty man should get as there is no dissent over the crucial fact
that the victim was not consenting?

Seriously?

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
30. I would like to see a Venn diagram....
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:10 AM
Jun 2014

... showing where "promiscuous" overlaps with, "unconscious."

Please, defense team, show me that.

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