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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 07:49 PM Jun 2014

Boston ramps up police presence around abortion clinics after Supreme Court ruling

Source: Reuters


By Reuters
Thursday, June 26, 2014 19:02 EDT

BOSTON (Reuters) – Boston will deploy extra police around the city’s abortion clinics starting on Friday to prevent potential unrest after the U.S. Supreme Court knocked down the state’s “buffer law” keeping protesters back 35 feet (11 meters).

“We will have an increased police presence around these facilities tomorrow from 7:30 a.m. to noon, at which point we will assess,” said Kate Norton, spokeswoman for Boston Mayor Martin Walsh. “There is always concern when a measure that has been put in place for public safety is removed.”

The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday struck down the Massachusetts law that mandates a protective buffer zone around abortion clinics to allow patients unimpeded access.


On a 9-0 vote, the court said the 2007 law violated the free speech rights of anti-abortion protesters under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution by preventing them from standing on the sidewalk and speaking to people entering the clinics.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/26/boston-ramps-up-police-presence-around-abortion-clinics-after-supreme-court-ruling/

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Boston ramps up police presence around abortion clinics after Supreme Court ruling (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
Speaking to people trying to enter the clinics? Aristus Jun 2014 #1
There is no such right hack89 Jun 2014 #3
Unfortunately, no, IronGate Jun 2014 #40
protective buffer zone bikeboy Jun 2014 #2
How does this effect "free speech zones"? rickyhall Jun 2014 #17
I know, right? What about the protest buffer zones they had for OWS. Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #23
This is why this law was needed in the first place... FailureToCommunicate Jun 2014 #4
And look at what respect they hold for our country's flag in the first picture davidpdx Jun 2014 #13
And they would probably be the first to complain about flag burning. cui bono Jun 2014 #16
This kind of says it all: Control-Z Jun 2014 #5
So sad this is a question of safty...these people are stalkers hangfire00 Jun 2014 #6
Yes, they are stalkers, by all means! Judi Lynn Jun 2014 #25
Scalia: There’s ‘Entirely Separate, Abridged’ 1st Amendment for Pro Choicers freshwest Jun 2014 #7
The Chosen 5 father founding Jun 2014 #8
Wonder how they'd like if they saw the same shit right outside THEIR homes? MADem Jun 2014 #10
"Just to be clear, the Supreme Court has a very active ban against demonstrators on its own grounds. Cha Jun 2014 #26
I know--do as a say, not as I do. Maddow had a good piece on this yesterday. MADem Jun 2014 #35
Speaking of vuvuzelas... jmowreader Jun 2014 #39
You mean the Chosen 9? IronGate Jun 2014 #41
So what about ''free speech zones'' for Presidents? DeSwiss Jun 2014 #9
Really important aspect of this case that Court did not consider Justice Jun 2014 #11
9-0?? FourScore Jun 2014 #12
My guess is they had no choice davidpdx Jun 2014 #15
why wasn't one female justice designated to state an opinion? CTyankee Jun 2014 #28
I have no idea how they assign opinions davidpdx Jun 2014 #29
All the Justices have the right to write an opinion happyslug Jun 2014 #32
The buffer zone was to large happyslug Jun 2014 #33
When the next shooting occurs davidpdx Jun 2014 #14
The oligarch media? I doubt it. nt valerief Jun 2014 #19
If you read the opinion, the question... happyslug Jun 2014 #34
As long as SCOTUS has THEIR buffer space. Fuck women. That's exactly what they're saying. valerief Jun 2014 #18
Good. maddogesq Jun 2014 #20
Pepper spray should work, too theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #31
They're slinging out those unanimous decisions left, right, and center marshall Jun 2014 #21
Yep, I'd say that ruling should equally apply to those "Free Speech Zones" dballance Jun 2014 #22
Yep WhoWoodaKnew Jun 2014 #27
Sad. :( C Moon Jun 2014 #24
SCOTUS lacks diversity. It is not representative of the American people at all. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #30
Cut SC budjet lsewpershad Jun 2014 #36
Notice goes out to the anti-abortion crazies: meet at 12:30 in front of Boston Planned Parenthood riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #37
Good on Boston, but... ReRe Jun 2014 #38
This will lead to violence. mysuzuki2 Jun 2014 #42

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
1. Speaking to people trying to enter the clinics?
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 08:06 PM
Jun 2014

More like harassing and threatening the people trying to enter the clinics.

Don't those people have a right not to be yelled and screamed at?

bikeboy

(124 posts)
2. protective buffer zone
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 08:13 PM
Jun 2014

How will this ruling affect groups that want to have their say at political conventions?! I thought we were just told we had to be caged...how is this different?

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
17. How does this effect "free speech zones"?
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:49 PM
Jun 2014

Seems "radicals" can get in the faces of the lying liars now. Humm...

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
13. And look at what respect they hold for our country's flag in the first picture
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:14 PM
Jun 2014

Paint all over them, one is on the ground, and they have cut them up to make aprons out of them. Thoroughly disgusting.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
16. And they would probably be the first to complain about flag burning.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:40 PM
Jun 2014

If done by the "wrong" people for the "wrong" reason.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
5. This kind of says it all:
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 08:32 PM
Jun 2014

“There is always concern when a measure that has been put in place for public safety is removed.”

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Scalia: There’s ‘Entirely Separate, Abridged’ 1st Amendment for Pro Choicers
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jun 2014

by Evan McMurry - June 26th, 2014

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia wrote a concurring opinion in McCullen v Coakley, today’s decision overturning Massachusetts’ thirty-five foot buffer zone around abortion clinics, caviling that pro choice advocates enjoy a special version of the First Amendment to which even this decision unnecessarily caters.

“Today’s opinion carries forward this Court’s practice of giving abortion-rights advocates a pass when it comes to suppressing the free-speech rights of their opponents,” Scalia wrote. “There is an entirely separate, abridged edition of the First Amendment applicable to speech against abortion.”

Scalia argued the law had already been rejected on lesser grounds, and thus didn’t need to be rejected on strict scrutiny grounds pertaining to the content of speech. He pointed to a case argued earlier in the term in which the Court had felt no need to address the strict scrutiny arguments when a law was already rejected, but argued that the presence of abortion in this case caused everybody to freak out.

“The second half of the Court’s analysis today, invalidat­ing the law at issue because of inadequate ‘tailoring,’ is certainly attractive to those of us who oppose an abortion­ speech edition of the First Amendment,” Scalia wrote. “But think again. This is an opinion that has Something for Everyone, and the more significant portion continues the onward march of abortion-speech-only jurisprudence.”


http://www.mediaite.com/online/scalia-theres-entirely-separate-abridged-1st-amendment-for-pro-choicers/

This is not about speech. It's about intimidation and ignoring public safety. The protestors also follow the workers and clients to their homes, firebomb places, publicize their names through online license plate searches, and give their home phone number, addresses, the names of family members and their employers out to RWNJs who call them to make their lives hell.

The majority of clients at a Planned Parenthood clinic aren't there for abortion. I'm unsure if this is an abortion only clinic, but I doubt it.

They want to own our bodies and lives. It's the Handmaiden's Tale in slow motion here. Women will be property again.

I've yet to see any counter protests of sufficient numbers to fight these fanatics off. I guess no one cares. Being born female is going to be one of the worst things there is.

Thanks a lot, Reagan and the rest of you creeps.

 

father founding

(619 posts)
8. The Chosen 5
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:07 PM
Jun 2014

Bet there is a huge buffer around the Supreme Court building to keep the Riff Raff away from the Chosen ones.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Wonder how they'd like if they saw the same shit right outside THEIR homes?
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jun 2014

Hey man, I just wanna talk to you....it's my RIGHT as a citizen to harass..er...impart my views to you from the sidewalk in front of your house!!!!!!

Cha

(296,844 posts)
26. "Just to be clear, the Supreme Court has a very active ban against demonstrators on its own grounds.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 03:25 AM
Jun 2014

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4:53 AM - 26 Jun 2014
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http://theobamadiary.com/2014/06/26/a-tweet-or-two-56/#more-176825

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. I know--do as a say, not as I do. Maddow had a good piece on this yesterday.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jun 2014

I think we need to get some people out there with those vuvuzelas -- and blast the living shit out of those bastards every time they go ANYWHERE.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
11. Really important aspect of this case that Court did not consider
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/06/26/supreme-court-naive-buffer-zones/3S6KqzIif4ujhpzB2XgtFO/story.html

Law was passed in response to a guy that went into two clinics and shot dead two workers.

in 1994, John Salvi III had walked into a Planned Parenthood clinic and shot and killed receptionist Shannon Lowry. Salvi shot and killed receptionist Lee Ann Nichols in another abortion clinic that day.

“I can’t say that it [peaceful conversation] never happened,” Demakis went on. “It certainly did not happen on a regular basis. What the protesters did was — in very aggressive, even offensive ways — to interfere with and to intimidate women going into health clinics to exercise their right to choose.”

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. My guess is they had no choice
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:20 PM
Jun 2014

Four of the corporate justices wanted to broad ruling. To appease Roberts they likely had to agree to at least a narrow ruling against, otherwise it would have been a 5-4 broad ruling.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
28. why wasn't one female justice designated to state an opinion?
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 08:20 AM
Jun 2014

I've only seen Scalia's opinion. I realize there was no dissenting opinion, but can't there be another analysis by another justice?

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
32. All the Justices have the right to write an opinion
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jun 2014

The majority opinion is written by the chief justice or if he is on the other side, the senior most justice. If that justice does not want to write an opinion she or she designate the author.

Now any justice can write an opinion, thus the massive growth of concurring opinions and more then one dissent in recent decades. Thus Saclia's opinion is above Alito's but Alito had the right to a separate opinion.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
33. The buffer zone was to large
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jun 2014

Read the opinion. The court found the buffer zone to large. The state could not even produce one arrest for the smaller buffer zone the the court approve of in 2000 (and are still constitutional by this ruling).

The court found the evidence the the larger buffer zone was needed lacking (the court then pointed out the lack of arrests for violating the smaller buffer zone permitted since 2000 as evidence that the larger zone was to restrict SPEECH not to protect women entering the clinic, since the court found the purpose of the larger buffer zone was to restrict speech it violated the first Amendment).

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. When the next shooting occurs
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:17 PM
Jun 2014

Will the media report that it is the inadequate safety measures allowed by SCOTUS that allowed it? We should start calling it Vigilante Judicialism

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
34. If you read the opinion, the question...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 11:08 AM
Jun 2014

When will the next arrest take place? That was the problem with this law. Under the 2000 ruling upholding buffer zones no one was arrested for violating that smaller buffer zone. Thus why was the larger zone needed? The smaller buffer zone appeared to have been working. The reasons sited by the Massachusetts's Attorney General was found not to be sufficient, given the lack of arrests for violation of the smaller buffer zones. Thus the court found this larger buffer zone violated the right to free Speech without good reasons for that violation.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
18. As long as SCOTUS has THEIR buffer space. Fuck women. That's exactly what they're saying.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jun 2014

Fuck women.

Your tax dollars in action.

maddogesq

(1,245 posts)
20. Good.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:39 PM
Jun 2014

Boston's finest musta read my request in the other thread. A couple of bobby sticks in the butts of trailer trash might make them think twice about harassing patients. Sorry to be that way, but I have little respect for anti-choice folk who cannot think logically.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
31. Pepper spray should work, too
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:18 AM
Jun 2014

Is someone is going to get close enough to these women to threaten them, they and their escorts have every right to defend themselves.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
21. They're slinging out those unanimous decisions left, right, and center
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:45 PM
Jun 2014

Since when are they all on the same page on anything?

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
22. Yep, I'd say that ruling should equally apply to those "Free Speech Zones"
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jun 2014

As in there is no such thing as a "Free Speech Zone." If the people who want to harass women and workers at clinics can get all in their faces I don't see why the rest of us can't get all in the faces of people we'd like to have our free speech rights to "talk" to.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
30. SCOTUS lacks diversity. It is not representative of the American people at all.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 09:17 AM
Jun 2014

And this is what comes from that.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
38. Good on Boston, but...
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 05:42 PM
Jun 2014

... why only until noon? Maybe if the religious zealots start showing up in excess after 12PM, the police will extend the hours?

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