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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:02 PM Jun 2014

(Supreme) Court Rejects Challenge To Law Banning Gay Therapy

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Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has rejected a challenge to California's law that bars mental counseling aimed at turning gay minors straight.

The justices on Monday let stand an appeals court ruling that said the state's ban on so-called conversiontherapy for minors doesn't violate the free speech rights of licensed counselors and patients seeking treatment.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last year that California lawmakers properly showed that efforts to change sexual orientation were outside the scientific mainstream and have been rejected for good reason.

Liberty Counsel, a Christian legal aid group, had challenged the law along with other supporters of the therapy. They argue that lawmakers have no scientific proof the therapy does harm.

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(Supreme) Court Rejects Challenge To Law Banning Gay Therapy (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
They got one right! nt Chef Eric Jun 2014 #1
Well there's a surprise! mountain grammy Jun 2014 #2
Baffling, in a way. malthaussen Jun 2014 #3
Well surprise, surprise. SoapBox Jun 2014 #4
Glad to hear it. K&R closeupready Jun 2014 #5
States make and inforce laws respecting health and health care. McCamy Taylor Jun 2014 #6
What I really don't understand is this.... lexx21 Jun 2014 #7
Because they believe they have a duty to save sinners, that NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #8
And yet, Styx Jun 2014 #16
They pick and choose jmowreader Jun 2014 #18
Yeah, Styx Jun 2014 #19
Supporting our Snake Oil salespeople Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #9
So, you think gay reparative therapy is okay and very cool or,... DonViejo Jun 2014 #10
The latter Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #11
Okay, thanks. Sorry for any misunderstanding. eom DonViejo Jun 2014 #13
A broken clock is right twice a day. iandhr Jun 2014 #12
Yep, even cuckoo clocks. eom DonViejo Jun 2014 #14
This looks like a decision meant to make the court appear reasonable... EEO Jun 2014 #15
They did one decent thing shenmue Jun 2014 #17

mountain grammy

(26,571 posts)
2. Well there's a surprise!
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jun 2014

The corrupt ones passing on a chance to further their religious and right wing beliefs and disrupt democracy.

malthaussen

(17,066 posts)
3. Baffling, in a way.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:46 PM
Jun 2014

But I have this theory that the USSC is okay with finally acknowledging gay rights because they and the other branches are making said rights valueless to begin with.

-- Mal

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
6. States make and inforce laws respecting health and health care.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 02:37 PM
Jun 2014

If you said a state could not outlaw quack psychotherapy, you would also say that a state could not ban quack psycho-surgery.

lexx21

(321 posts)
7. What I really don't understand is this....
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jun 2014

Why do the fundie groups have such a hard on against the gay community? Just because two same sex people want to be together, do they think that "gay rays" are going to make them want to do the same? It's insanity, and what is worse is that they are gaining ground in some places. You either have a proclivity toward someone of the same sex or you do not. It's that simple. It's not like you are "converted".

Personally, as a christian, these groups just need to sit down and shut up. If two people fall in love and want to be together, care for one another, possibly raise a family together, so be it. It's their business, not that of anyone else. It sickens me to see people try to mandate their version of morality on others.

NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
8. Because they believe they have a duty to save sinners, that
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jun 2014

this is what God commands them to do.

Do I believe it? No. But that's why these people can't just "live and let live".

 

Styx

(30 posts)
16. And yet,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:18 PM
Jun 2014

Rarely do I see them picketing outside Red Lobster. The language attached to eating shellfish is just as strong... Hmmm.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
18. They pick and choose
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jun 2014

The Bible says not to eat pork, but half the Southern churches that teach Biblical Inerrancy rely on pig pickin's as their primary source of income. (The other half are big on oyster roasts, which are also banned.)

One of our number put it very well: You know God is created in your own image when he hates all the same things you do.

 

Styx

(30 posts)
19. Yeah,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jun 2014

They do pick and choose, and it certainly isn't random. I'm reminded of the "alternative versions" of the Bible that southern plantation owners supplied for slave churches, with the justifications for slavery added thereto.

They aren't going to the Bible to see what they should do, they're just wrapping themselves in it to justify bigotry that can't be justified through any tortured and warped version of logic.

They point out biblical prohibitions of sodomy, without ever seeming to realize or admit that those prohibitions cover getting BJs from women, as well. There's also a prohibition against laying with your wife while she's on her period. The hypocrisy would be funny, if it wasn't so scary.

What's really Ironic is that (if real and reported accurately) JC was probably one of the most Liberal and Progressive leaders (in context of their time) in all of human history. He's the guy who preached tolerance, love of everyone, cast out the money lenders, discouraged throwing stones, and eventually got arrested and sentenced to capital punishment. Does anyone seriously think that if He were alive today, He'd be a Republican?

EEO

(1,620 posts)
15. This looks like a decision meant to make the court appear reasonable...
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jun 2014

... and, dare I say it, balanced...

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