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Omaha Steve

(99,566 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:39 PM Dec 2014

Police union is providing Wilson security

Source: USA Today

Kevin Johnson,

A contingent of St. Louis-area police union members have been providing personal protection for former Ferguson officer Darren Wilson, an unusual security arrangement that will likely continue indefinitely despite the officer's recent resignation from the force, a top union official said Monday.

Jim Pasco, executive director of the national Fraternal Order of Police, said local FOP members have been voluntarily providing Wilson's security that has included their involvement in shuttling the officer among undisclosed locations since his involvement in the Aug. 9 fatal shooting of teenager Michael Brown.

"I don't know how he can live a normal life,'' Pasco said, adding that his "days as a cop are over.''

"We'll work with him as long as necessary,'' he said.

Neil Bruntrager, Wilson's attorney, confirmed that union officers have been assisting his client since the shooting.

FULL story at link.



A demonstrator protesting the shooting death of Michael Brown kneels in the middle of an intersection as he is arrested by police in St. Louis. (Photo: Joshua Lott, Getty Images)


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/01/wilson-security-union/19745877/

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Police union is providing Wilson security (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP
what tangled webs we weave SummerSnow Dec 2014 #1
Well, isn't that special. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #2
As well they should. The last thing we want is this asshole turning into a martyr Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #3
+10000000000 NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #8
^^^cubed^^^ irisblue Dec 2014 #19
sick Snow Leopard Dec 2014 #38
Showing your spots already? Tsk, tsk, tsk. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #41
So the murderer needs a security detail because he's scared. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #4
I don't blame the union for fulfilling this obligation. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #5
IMO he would be best to leave and change his identity somehow, almost like the witness RKP5637 Dec 2014 #6
Unions are for working people, not police bluestateguy Dec 2014 #7
If police werent armed to the teeth and brutalizing people, I would want them NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #10
What???? You can't pick and chose who has union yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #11
when a union exists to protect criminals it loses much of its legitimacy nt msongs Dec 2014 #12
Well when we have no unions in 20 years we will yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #15
Wilson is innocent msongs. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #24
He is "presumed" innocent. Big difference. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #31
Fine, he is "presumed" innocent then. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #48
What then, is the rational alternative to a police union? Free-market and privatization all the way. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #33
Teacher Unions make sure the right are protected KinMd Dec 2014 #34
When the "union" picks and choses who is in them, maybe you can csziggy Dec 2014 #42
WHAT?? You are ANTI-UNION!! Why do you HATE ALL UNIONS??? 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #14
Thats because the union is doing exactly what unions are designed to do though cstanleytech Dec 2014 #26
Blah blah.. why r u whitesplainin' why cops can murder black kids 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #27
I am explaining why unions exist and the benefits of them for everyone not just cops cstanleytech Dec 2014 #29
Oh, come on. Please. I can pick and choose all I want. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #46
There are no "good" or "bad" unions though there are some unions cstanleytech Dec 2014 #47
the cop doesn't always walk bad cops get busted all the time snooper2 Dec 2014 #36
You mean like Officer Wilson was "busted"? 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #44
you must be one of those who has read none of the evidence presented to the grand jury snooper2 Dec 2014 #45
No doubt minimum wage policing will be much better. Starry Messenger Dec 2014 #25
Cops are the enforcement arm of the Capitalist class. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #40
As long as they are paying the bill . . .. Downwinder Dec 2014 #9
Maybe he can share a room with George Zimmerman AKing Dec 2014 #13
Maybe it would be better if he shared a cell with Zimmerman. n/t RebelOne Dec 2014 #21
Oh, I think that babysitting Wilson will get old sooner than anyone knows. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #16
Do police unions ever stand with other unions? Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #17
What a chicken shit wilson is... irisblue Dec 2014 #18
WHY should he get to live a 'normal' life? Unless its in prison. joanbarnes Dec 2014 #20
Maybe because he hasn't been convicted of a crime... Oktober Dec 2014 #37
Because he was not charged with anything yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #43
awww, that just warms the heaven05 Dec 2014 #22
More solidarity there than in most unions Township75 Dec 2014 #23
As they should since there have been credible threats to his life. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2014 #28
You mean the NRA isn't providing security for him? Shameful. WTF is the world coming to. Kennah Dec 2014 #30
its really providing insecurity olddots Dec 2014 #32
I have no problem with this as long as taxdollars are not being used to pay for this LynneSin Dec 2014 #35
Fascist thugs protecting their own. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #39

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
3. As well they should. The last thing we want is this asshole turning into a martyr
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014

I want him to live a long long life.

And every day of his life, I want him to look around in fear; wondering whether this will be his last day on earth.

I wish this for him for the rest of his natural life, which I hope will be very, very long.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
4. So the murderer needs a security detail because he's scared.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014


Hint: if he is such a scaredy, he should never have been allowed to be a cop.

And NEVER AGAIN should he be allowed a position of authority.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. I don't blame the union for fulfilling this obligation.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:45 PM
Dec 2014

Sucks, and they probably don't want to do it, but some things you plug your nose and mush on.
I know Wilson did the worst thing imaginable, but that just makes me all the more impressed that the Union is doing this.

I don't see this as a thin blue line nepotism type thing, but rather a union solidarity thing. Eventually, he won't be their problem anymore, and many sighs of relief will be uttered, I'm sure.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
6. IMO he would be best to leave and change his identity somehow, almost like the witness
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:46 PM
Dec 2014

protection program or something. ... but then Zimmerman has managed to survive despite making spectacles of himself.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
7. Unions are for working people, not police
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:50 PM
Dec 2014

I do not consider this association to be a "union".

And I do not think police should have collecting bargaining privileges.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
10. If police werent armed to the teeth and brutalizing people, I would want them
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:56 PM
Dec 2014

to have the same union protection any government worker should have.

But we have lost our minds with what we have done with police departments.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
11. What???? You can't pick and chose who has union
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 07:58 PM
Dec 2014

Partipation. You start with police. Republicans agree with you, but want teachers included. Very slippery slope. Dangerous in fact. I am glad for anyone who has a union police included.

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
24. Wilson is innocent msongs.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:30 PM
Dec 2014

Or atleast he is until he has actually been convicted in a court of law.
That aside I am with the other poster who earlier said they hope he lives a long life because hes going to have to live with what he has done both the good and the bad.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
33. What then, is the rational alternative to a police union? Free-market and privatization all the way.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:55 AM
Dec 2014

What then, is the rational alternative to a police union? Free-market and privatization all the way...?

KinMd

(966 posts)
34. Teacher Unions make sure the right are protected
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 10:41 AM
Dec 2014

of teachers accused of sex with students, so are they protecting criminals also?

csziggy

(34,134 posts)
42. When the "union" picks and choses who is in them, maybe you can
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 01:42 PM
Dec 2014

From: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025897004

Police organizations in St. Louis have separate predominantly white and black organizations
Skidmore

Interesting.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/01/1348628/-St-Louis-has-two-police-associations-one-for-white-officers-and-one-for-black-officers?detail=facebook

It all makes so much more sense now.

Although it doesn't say so in its name, the St. Louis Police Officers Association, which has staunchly defended Darren Wilson, defamed Mike Brown, and recently called for the suspension of St. Louis Rams football players who showed solidarity with Ferguson, is actually the (White) St. Louis Police Officers Association. African-American officers in St. Louis have their own separate organization that advocates for their needs.

Called the St. Louis Black Police Officers Association until 1975, African-American officers continue to organize separate from their white counterparts in what they now call the St. Louis Ethical Society of Police.

In a strange twist of irony, the head of the African-American police union in St. Louis is a black man named Darren Wilson. In a recent letter he stated:

Our motto is “We are the conscious of the St. Louis Police Department.” We did not come to this motto lightly. We believe that someone has to be willing to stand up and hold our Police Department to the oaths of service that we all have taken.
In fact, our motto is almost like another type of oath. It is a promise---a promise to you that we will be working every day to be the conscious of the St. Louis Police Department.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
14. WHAT?? You are ANTI-UNION!! Why do you HATE ALL UNIONS???
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 08:20 PM
Dec 2014

That ^ is the kind of bullshit responses I get when I dare to suggest that
police unions are a problematic embarrassment to the union movement,
because the main thing they provide is a cloak of secrecy and a patina of
quasi-"legitimacy" for criminal police officers.

Because any given officer KNOWS their police union "has their back", it
instills such a powerful sense of entitlement that cops use it as a "license
to murder" and abuse citizens, pretty much at-will.

Everytime a cop shoots an unarmed citizen, they get a PAID vacation for
weeks or months, while the department and the cops union create a "trail
of evidence" that points to the dead victim as being the perp. not the cop.

The cop always walks.

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
26. Thats because the union is doing exactly what unions are designed to do though
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:40 PM
Dec 2014

which is protect their members from their employer retaliating against an employee for something like what happens to employees who work for an employer that dont have a union to guard their back like for example the employees for Walmart and Mcdonalds who are at their employers mercy because they dont have a union.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
27. Blah blah.. why r u whitesplainin' why cops can murder black kids
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:51 PM
Dec 2014

seriously ... using the fig-leaf of a police "union" to literally entitle cops to
shoot dead anyone they take a fancy to blow away.

Really?

And the "union" should shield criminal behavior of cops. right?

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
29. I am explaining why unions exist and the benefits of them for everyone not just cops
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:02 PM
Dec 2014

and that the union is in this case protecting a member like unions try to do and you cannot pick and choose when you will or will not support a union if you truly support unions that is.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
46. Oh, come on. Please. I can pick and choose all I want.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 02:46 PM
Dec 2014

Listen, there are many GOOD unions and a few BAD unions, and I absolutely will "pick and choose"
a good union every time, as well I should.. It's idiotic to say that if I support the idea of unions,
then I have to support ALL unions, regardless of how horrible or criminal they are, I still must support
them??

I don't think so. vv

That is like saying if I support the Democratic Party, then I absolutely MUST blindly support every
Democrat in the known universe, regardless of their behavior or positions; which is BS and you know it.

Now if you will excuse me, I have some more picking' and choosing to do.

cstanleytech

(26,276 posts)
47. There are no "good" or "bad" unions though there are some unions
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 04:11 PM
Dec 2014

that are being run better than others because of the decisions the people running them make.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
36. the cop doesn't always walk bad cops get busted all the time
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:44 AM
Dec 2014

don't let facts get in the way of a good rant though LOL

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
44. You mean like Officer Wilson was "busted"?
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 02:34 PM
Dec 2014

with a PAID vacation and his brand new $450,000 expense account raised by BackStoppers?

I'd like to get "busted" that way anytime.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
45. you must be one of those who has read none of the evidence presented to the grand jury
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 02:39 PM
Dec 2014

Oh,

And if Monkey #53 steals one more thing out of the fridge in the break room that ass monkey won't be swinging in trees anytime soon

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
43. Because he was not charged with anything
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 02:04 PM
Dec 2014

Our country doesn't use kidnapping typically. He is living a "normal" life because he has not been found to have done anything wrong. I don't agree with that, but that is the reality of the situation.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
22. awww, that just warms the
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:23 PM
Dec 2014

'cockles of my heart. not. I hope this POS wilsonthepig NEVER has a peaceful day for the REST of his evil life. He's the fucking demon murderer.

Township75

(3,535 posts)
23. More solidarity there than in most unions
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:24 PM
Dec 2014

The union I had been with was all in fighting and back stabbing. This wouldn't have happened there so repubs better take notice that not all unions are weak and will roll over.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
35. I have no problem with this as long as taxdollars are not being used to pay for this
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:31 AM
Dec 2014

If these people are volunteering to help out then that is their own personal time. If taxdollars are being used to provide security then I have an issue.

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