this.

The state's GOP Assembly passed an "Ag-Gag" law and the GOP governor signed it. That's what you get when you let Republicans win elections.

Rather than look for the R or D tag, we should speak directly to the abusive laws and lawmakers that shield all kinds of government and crony corporate operations from public transparency.

What is your source for this statement?

The "Ag-Gag" laws now in place in many states are the product of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a purely Conservative Republican organization.

I don't know of any Democrats who support ALEC.

GOP Majority, One Dem, Push Ag-Gag One Big Step Toward Becoming Idaho Law..........

55 members of the Idaho House Republican majority voted in favor of the ag-gag bill, joined by Gooding Democratic Rep. Donna Pence.

13 Democrats voted against the measure, joined by two Republicans: Boise Rep. Lynn Luker and Meridian Rep. Steven Harris.
http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/gop-majority-one-dem-push-ag-gag-one-big-step-toward-becoming-idaho-law/Content?oid=3065037

N.H. House panel endorses animal-cruelty legislation blasted by opponents as “ag-gag” bill

“What we’re trying to do is to protect the small farmers in New Hampshire. . . . What we’re trying to do is to prevent what I think an attorney would refer to as ‘frivolous actions,’ by making people think before they accuse,” said Rep. Janice Gardner, a Dover Democrat. Four Democrats and seven Republicans voted for the bill after more than an hour of debate. All six “no” votes came from Democrats.
http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/8429711-95/nh-house-panel-endorses-animal-cruelty-legislation-blasted-by-opponents-as-ag-gag-bill

There should be absolutely no need for this type of Bill if only the farming community / farming corporations stood up and said NO CRUELTY NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

I am truly ashamed to be a member of the same political party as Pence and other Dems who support such cruel laws.

Thanks for the links.

these "Dems" have sold out.

40-10 in the Iowa Senate
69-28 in the house

There were more than 10 Democrats in the Iowa Senate and more than 28 in the House

amended the state constitution to exempt abortion legislation from judicial challenge, passed a law that prohibits local or municipal governments from establishing anti-discrimination policies, passed more than twenty gun laws, such as one that prohibits employers from banning guns on their premises, passed a law giving the state attorney general the power to discriminate against MUslims, etc. etc.

It goes on and on.

I don't get this "they're all the same". Maybe people aren't paying attention. They're not the same.

That's what happens when corporations take over the country. Elections don't mean a damned thing, as this last piece of shit legislation that passed with overwhelming ''Democratic'' support proved.

- You need some updated talking points. That one's a little stale......

Although even in that arena, there is far more support for public policy that supports ordinary Americans on the Democratic side than on the Republican side.

If you're looking at public policy at the state level, which is what I was talking about, and you can't see any difference between Republican policies and Democratic policies, you're not paying any serious attention.

(P.S. your talking point is pretty stale and predictable as well.)

Stories like this make me sick!

How much money are these factory farms saving by abusing the poor, defenseless animals?

Screw the "Ag-Gag" laws, screw ALEC for writing these laws.
and screw the state-level Republican politicians who vote in these laws. and if there are Dems who also vote for them, screw them too!

I knew this lady in her 60s who milked 13 cows twice a day by herself...and made a modest living doing it.

When it was time to milk the cows she had two dogs she sent out to get the cows...and they were so used to it when they saw the dogs they headed for the barn...they each went to there own stalls by themselves knowing she was going to give them some grain...then she milked them...took less tan an hour to do it all including clean up.

Those cows were as calm as could be about the whole thing...no need to force them to do anything.
You can cooperate with nature or you can fight it...and a factory farm fights it.

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Similar recent story at a Wisconsin dairy farm: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/great_lakes_cheese_is_outraged.html

The words mozzarella cheese in the above article belong in quotes. Check it out: http://foodbabe.com/2014/03/23/if-youve-ever-eaten-pizza-before-this-will-blow-your-mind/

Fuck them, you're an inspiration, even to us old-timers.

GOOD!

- Anyone who eats meat MUST KNOW how it is raised by now. And if they say they don't they are being willfully ignorant (AKA: Lying).

This is where almost all meat comes from, places like this:

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guess these are the cute cow pics on the Dominos pizza box?, "the happy cows that make our cheese".

America needs to start to enforce the few animal cruelty laws, we're a cruel & violent society. Worse and worse.

gross polluters of ground water.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/hilmar-cheese

"... closed down shortly after the video became public in September..."

I sure would've been interested. Especially, since the GOP incessantly pounded on several key seats and took the NM House for the first time in 60 some-odd years. Might have been different a different outcome, if this were widely known.

and thus elections are stolen in yet another way, before a vote is cast.

Animal abuse is the Lowest of the Low!

no one to advise the ones in charge to stop the abuse, no where to turn, no where to hide, they are in agony, vulnerable to any evil ill will a vicious "human" being chooses to hand out to them.

I cannot believe it was ever part of a "divine plan" to put helpless creatures in the keeping of monsters.

How much does anyone ever lose in being kind, and gentle to a helpless, frightened animal? Why would they choose to harm them? I will never forgive what has happened to the helpless creatures in this world.

We are all strangers here, regardless of some peoples' belief an immortal Spaghetti Monster created everything in sight as their playground, to treat, mistreat as they wish.

Thanks for your post.

Welcome to D.U., Ryan Fitzomething!

cows have been bred to have much larger udders, are fed feeds and medications to maximize milk production.

It's not profitable for the Dairy Corp.to be kind or humane to their 'living milk producers'. they just don't damage the udders and make sure it can walk to the milking machine and eat the feed.

But you don't make much money milking cows.

The people they hired they probably didn't pay shit to, and they probably weren't very smart.

You should never beat an animal. However if you have a cow stopped in the middle of the line to the milking parlor that's a major problem if you are milking 3000. How do you move it??

Also if you got a sick or downed cow how do you move it other than by a tractor?

I've been milking goats for 25 years. I don't own a commercial dairy but I do know about dairying.

I have a doe right now, Crazy and if I let her in with anybody else she totally forgets about milking and beats the shit out of the 2 does behind her. I've never hit her but plenty of times I've jerked her collar to get her to cut it out. Normally I let her in first because none of the other goats will assume their positions if she is loose for fear of getting beat up. Now she's a 250 lb goat but what happens if a 1200 lb cow does that? What if there's 300 behind her moving forward crushing the others because she's standing there??

I had a buck this year. One of my favorites. He weighs over 300. Well my wife made the mistake of going on vacation. You can never vacation if you own a farm. Well he came down with the meningeal worm and my farm sitter didn't give him any Ivermectin. When we got home he was out in the pen and couldn't get up. We couldn't lift him both of us so we drug him into the tractor bucket, picked him up and moved him to a stall to take care of him. If we hadn't moved him by tractor he would have been out there in the rain.

So while I think that these people were abusing the cows, there's some things about taking care of animals that wouldn't make sense unless you had done it.

Ideally, nobody would have 3000 cows. You'd have 50 or 100 and they would be raised in a very extensive situation. However there's that thing about people bitching about 20 dollar a gallon milk that keeps that from happening.

I understand how hard it is to move any downed large sick animal, have helped with plenty of large animals.

I don't think people are upset about the 'method' used to lift a downed animal. Its what happens to the poor downed animal for many days before & after the 'bucket ride' that hurts the soul.

It's the Death Camp that these large animal CORP. farms have become is so freaking horrid to see & hear, the CORPS hate the camera as much as the police. That's why todays American Corps try and many have made it a crime to expose their Animal Cruelty.

by the way there is nothing as good and tasty as goats milk and goat butter, though I am terrified of the Billy!