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BooScout

(10,406 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:54 AM Mar 2016

Hillary’s Moment Is Our Moment

http://bluenationreview.com/hillarys-moment-is-our-moment/

In 2008, when Hillary bowed out of the presidential race, many dreams were put on hold. When Barack Obama won the White House, many beautiful dreams were realized. There was disappointment and there was glory in that election, pain and elation. Many of us remember it vividly. I held my baby daughter on my shoulders and cried tears of joy when Obama won.

Eight years later, Hillary is positioned to win the Democratic nomination, itself a historic accomplishment. The dreams of 2008 have blossomed again and the idea that America will elect its first woman president 8 years after electing its first black president is one that inspires and energizes.

Bernie Sanders has brought crucial issues to the fore. He has mobilized millions of voters. He deserves great credit for it.

Now, as Democrats we must start dealing squarely with the threat of Donald Trump. We need to come together and take on a truly radical Republican Party.

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Hillary’s Moment Is Our Moment (Original Post) BooScout Mar 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #1
Good morning! BooScout Mar 2016 #2
The ultrawealthy's triumph over democracy Baobab Mar 2016 #13
Hey! BooScout Mar 2016 #15
K & R Iliyah Mar 2016 #3
K&R DesertRat Mar 2016 #4
Thank you for this, Boo.. Cha Mar 2016 #5
If you work on Wall Street, then yes, this OP is true. Indepatriot Mar 2016 #6
Iraq War and the trade agreements? left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #7
K&R mcar Mar 2016 #8
Hillary has nothing to offer the Bernie folks as this point 4dsc Mar 2016 #9
Take on a "radical Republican Party" LiberalElite Mar 2016 #10
Our? Not so much ... KPN Mar 2016 #11
From what I catch of it, our trading partners have been messaged Baobab Mar 2016 #17
I see it more as Hillary's Moment is Hillary's Moment, denvine Mar 2016 #12
Mastry - The world famous Clintonian Triangulation at work! Baobab Mar 2016 #20
And in other news, the Wizard refuses to see Dorothy, RiverNoord Mar 2016 #14
As I understand it, many people's income depends on those blogging jobs during campaigns. Baobab Mar 2016 #21
Well that's an excellent point. RiverNoord Mar 2016 #38
hardly, unless you're part of the "more of the same" crowd stupidicus Mar 2016 #16
Hey! BooScout Mar 2016 #18
I'll do it again as an act of self-promotion stupidicus Mar 2016 #22
K&R! NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #19
I am sure that Hillary will get tons of GOP votes Baobab Mar 2016 #23
So? NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #25
The GOALS of the myriad policies she's going to continue -are nothing less than an attack on us all Baobab Mar 2016 #28
No, that's the same old game and I'm not playing it anymore. RiverNoord Mar 2016 #39
K&R brer cat Mar 2016 #24
I agree with this. In time, hopefully, Senator Sanders will lead his flock to a united MADem Mar 2016 #26
Let's see if she can figure out how to earn reluctant voters' ballots Scootaloo Mar 2016 #27
k&r Cary Mar 2016 #29
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #30
Hello, BooScout! CobaltBlue Mar 2016 #31
For feminists who support sexual harassment, it's their moment Dems to Win Mar 2016 #32
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #33
Bernie supporters have serious issues! earthshine Mar 2016 #34
Wow! From Brock's very own alternate reality media site! dchill Mar 2016 #35
Wow, so it's possible to say nice things about one Democatic candidate without synergie Mar 2016 #36
I stand with Hillary Gothmog Mar 2016 #37

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
13. The ultrawealthy's triumph over democracy
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

But even most of them will lose out under Hillary's neoliberal future, as more and more of the jobs are shifted to multinationals by liberalisation, domestic SMEs and small business will lose big as their customers vanish.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. Iraq War and the trade agreements?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

Those killed in Iraq and those who lost their jobs through Clinton supported trade deals don't agree.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
9. Hillary has nothing to offer the Bernie folks as this point
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

So we'll keep fighting till the end and not declare her the victor yet.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
11. Our? Not so much ...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

the persistent MSM drumbeat to discourage Berners and push Bernie out of the race isn't working Hillies. They are obviously worried about Bernie. Gotta love the ingratiating praise of Bernie -- sheesh!

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
17. From what I catch of it, our trading partners have been messaged
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

Disregard Bernie. No protectionist New Deals that only hire Americans are being planned or are even possible.

That's just for TV.

denvine

(798 posts)
12. I see it more as Hillary's Moment is Hillary's Moment,
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

Money in Politics Moment, Corporate Influence Moment and continued increase in disparity between the 99% and the 1% Moment. So, sorry, I am not on board yet. She represents just about everything most people are fed up with. She has just moved to the left a little because of Bernie Sanders, as soon as she gets the nomination, if she gets the nomination, it will be politics as usual.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
20. Mastry - The world famous Clintonian Triangulation at work!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

Nobody does triangulation better than its originators!



>She has just moved to the left a little because of Bernie Sanders, as soon as she gets the nomination, if she gets the nomination, it will be politics as usual.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
14. And in other news, the Wizard refuses to see Dorothy,
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

the White Rabbit is certain he's going to be late, again, and Captain Hook just heard what he is certain is a faint sound of the ticking of a watch.

Those statements contain more truth than this: "Hillary's Moment is Our Moment." No one who bothers to spend time writing stuff on Democratic Underground is in the club of people who will actually reap benefits from an Hillary Clinton presidency.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
21. As I understand it, many people's income depends on those blogging jobs during campaigns.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

Huge amounts of money are spent.

Like politicians, pro sock puppets are hired in many cases because of their controllability.

They have families to feed, health insurance bills to pay.


>No one who bothers to spend time writing stuff on Democratic Underground is in the club of people who will actually reap benefits from an Hillary Clinton presidency.

Why are Americans blind to what the whole rest of the world knows about American politics?

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
38. Well that's an excellent point.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

I stand corrected. But the hordes of pro sock puppets only get the drippings off the table. Perhaps the very best of them will get stretches of highways named after them once they're dead.

The former U.S. Route 20 in Orchard Park that's now the Timothy J. Russert Highway, courtesy of Sen. Hillary Clinton, is the kind of achievement that only the absolute elite of professional public ass-kissers can expect.

The real beneficiaries don't spend time doing things like talking to people without a net worth of at least $100 million. And they don't get roads named after them. They're the ones who ensure that the right roads get built and the wrong ones don't. And that their roads, reserved for the very few, are properly concealed from the masses.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
16. hardly, unless you're part of the "more of the same" crowd
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

who do you think that she'll have bombed next?

who celebrates a "lesser of two evils" vote? Those are the kinda moments most rational people like to avoid and the reason behind Bernie's support

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
22. I'll do it again as an act of self-promotion
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:08 PM
Mar 2016

thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks.

They really are undeniable and irrefutable, no?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
19. K&R!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

This says it all, exactly. I know certain Bernie supporters will never, ever vote for Hillary Clinton; some of them have even said they'll vote for Trump if the matchup is Clinton vs Trump. So what? They are in the extreme minority; DU is not the country. I believe the vast majority of Sanders supporters will vote for the Democratic nominee.

We do need to come together; a Trump (or Cruz) presidency is unthinkable.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
25. So?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

If they don't vote for Trump or Cruz, why is that a bad thing? Hillary isn't courting Republican votes, but no doubt of thinking Republicans will vote for someone sane rather than the two top clowns in their own party.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
28. The GOALS of the myriad policies she's going to continue -are nothing less than an attack on us all
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

thats why.
For example, globalizing subcontracting will make it so that all kinds of jobs will be done by vey low paid international low bid winners, pushing US wages way down. If you think US wages are too high, vote for Hillary.

https://www.citizen.org/documents/tafta-procurement-factsheet.pdf

look at her speeches overseas for verification of this.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
39. No, that's the same old game and I'm not playing it anymore.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:25 AM
Mar 2016

A Reagan presidency was unthinkable until it happened. And it sucked, but we survived. Mostly. This bullshit of 'we absolutely have to vote for x because we can't possibly let y win is a structured system of social engineering that ensures that, regardless of the outcomes of elections, the real power brokers always get more or less what they've planned for.

I decided I could not vote for Hillary Clinton well before Bernie Sanders announced his candidacy. I hoped that just about anyone would run so that I wouldn't be faced with the unpleasant prospect of not voting for a candidate for the Presidency for the first time in my life.

Hillary Clinton is a facade, the most refined product of the corporate sponsors of American elections that I've ever seen. She has accomplished virtually nothing as a public figure, yet she is at the center of a narrative of great accomplishments has been sculpted by skilled propagandists, herself included, over a span of decades.

I will no longer willingly yield up in sacrifice to this system the one thing I possess as an American citizen that it has yet to find a way to take involuntarily - my vote.

Rolling your eyes at this ridiculous conspiracy theory crackpot nonsense? Close your eyes, then start from a position of 'I know nothing at all about how this country is governed.' Then it's right there in plain view. It's why Bernie Sanders' candidacy, which has been historic in American politics in a great many ways, has been so superbly ignored into oblivion by the traffic cops of information flow in this country.

No thank you. If the electorate of this country has been so smothered by this system that it would actually elect a half-wit lunatic like Donald Trump to the office of the Presidency, it won't be my doing. There is a lot more at stake right now than one election of a President.

You say 'we do need to come together.' The greatest accomplishment of the corporate-sponsored system of American elections is getting approximately half of the electorate to say that about one candidate, and the other half to say the exact same thing about the other. To ensure this happens, the choice must be one or the other. A country of 350 million people, the first liberal democratic system in the modern world, and we routinely march off to vote for either the D candidate or the R candidate. It's a grotesque distortion of the concept of self-government. And no American should accept that it's just the way things are.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. I agree with this. In time, hopefully, Senator Sanders will lead his flock to a united
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016

opposition to the GOP agenda.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
31. Hello, BooScout!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:26 PM
Mar 2016

I voted in my state's primaries for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination to go to Bernie Sanders.

He's an actual liberal.

Hillary Clinton doesn't have a vision for leading the country other than more wars.

She is not an actual liberal.

I do not trust Hillary Clinton.



 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
32. For feminists who support sexual harassment, it's their moment
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:04 PM
Mar 2016

I'm a feminist opposed to sexual harassment, so I'm totally opposed to returning the Sexual Harasser in Chief to the White House.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
34. Bernie supporters have serious issues!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary supporters have dreams.

In reality, it's a dream come true for the Wall Street, the military industrial complex, and the 1%.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
36. Wow, so it's possible to say nice things about one Democatic candidate without
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

tearing down the other with nasty Republican smears filled with vile, nasty lies and right wing savagery? Who'd have thunk it, perhaps someone should go tell Glenn Greenwald, and Salon and HA HA Goodman, and Robert Reich and all the other so called Dems who just don't seem to understand that jumping on the RW attack wagon merely slimes them and doesn't do much for their candidate, who in a previous avatar (the Bernie of Autumn, as opposed the one who got all into the mud in the past few months) was a highly principled guy who was quite effective at arguing his positions and issues and refraining from the personal attacks and the negativity he not only stated that he abhorred, but was consistent in proving it in how he conducted himself?

I kinda miss that guy, anyone think he'll be back when Tad Devine runs off to back to representing evil corporations, Goldman Sachs execs and various despots and tyrant in the rest of the world*?

*Actual clients of both Tad's and his company, quite a list of characters.


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