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Zorro

(15,722 posts) Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:03 AM Aug 2016

If Tesla Model 3 Delivers, “Gas Vehicles Are History”: Gas & Auto Services Dealers Of America Exec

No doubt about it, many of us EV enthusiasts have been blown away by the Tesla Model 3 and believe it’s the car that is really going to break the gasoline auto industry’s back. But we’re just EV enthusiasts, right? Treehuggers, tech heads, climate alarmists, and people obsessed with breathing clean air — that’s who we are, right?

Okay, we can throw in gearheads now too, since electric cars absolutely crush gasmobiles in acceleration and many a gearhead is now in love with them. And I guess we can throw in anybody who loves scaring the crap out of their passengers as they skillfully effortlessly step on the pedal without notice and with full force.

But, again, this is still just a niche portion of society. Maybe we’re all just crazy enthusiasts and don’t have a clue what the mass market wants.

In a new Wall Street Journal article, however, a striking quotation jumped out at CleanTechnica reader Karl Graves, who highlighted it and passed it on to me. Maybe it didn’t come from Grandma Gretchen, but it did come from the executive director of Gasoline & Automotive Services Dealers of America, Mike Fox. Here’s the beauty (which is a mix of paraphrasing from author Chris Mims and the straight words of Mike Fox): “If Tesla can deliver on its current promises with the Model 3, says Mr. Fox, ‘gas vehicles are history—it’s horse and buggy days.’

https://cleantechnica.com/2016/08/29/tesla-model-3-delivers-gas-vehicles-history-gasoline-automotive-services-dealers-america-exec-says/

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If Tesla Model 3 Delivers, “Gas Vehicles Are History”: Gas & Auto Services Dealers Of America Exec (Original Post) Zorro Aug 2016 OP

I can see owning one for city driving and renting gas powered cars for long trips. onehandle Aug 2016 #1

Actually, the network of charging stations is growing fast. silverweb Aug 2016 #5

Yep. People forget that the charging system already largely exists. kristopher Aug 2016 #7

Yup! silverweb Aug 2016 #8

We have the Chargepoint app. Most Chargepoint stations are free - whole foods, museum parking etc. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2016 #11

Nice! silverweb Sep 2016 #13

I have faith magicnpoetry Aug 2016 #2

Counts Custom just up tricked one for Dee Snyder. Historic NY Aug 2016 #3

All that heat under the hood is wasted energy Cicada Aug 2016 #4

Yep. Plus dumping all that heat in to brakes. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2016 #12

I look forward to see oil company execs selling oranges on off-ramps. yurbud Aug 2016 #6

Me, too! silverweb Aug 2016 #9

Only one thing will kill off the internal-combustion gasoline engine Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #10

onehandle

(51,122 posts)

1. I can see owning one for city driving and renting gas powered cars for long trips.

Reply to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:06 AM

Aug 2016

Until charging stations/posts are common. That's going to be a while.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)

5. Actually, the network of charging stations is growing fast.

Reply to onehandle (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:00 PM

Aug 2016

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]There are "Supercharger" stations, as well as "destination chargers" attached to hotels and shopping centers, etc, all over the place, with more being added all the time.

I was surprised to see a stand-alone Trader Joe's with two chargers in a very ordinary urban neighborhood recently, not at all some posh shopping center in a monied suburb.

Finding the charging stations is easy because, of course, there's an app for that.

See maps of what's out there so far here:
https://www.tesla.com/supercharger
https://www.tesla.com/destination-charging

kristopher

(29,798 posts)

7. Yep. People forget that the charging system already largely exists.

Reply to silverweb (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:16 PM

Aug 2016

The grid. Since everything re billing and money can be done digitally by the automobile's software, all you really need is a plug and its hardware.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)

8. Yup!

Reply to kristopher (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:03 PM

Aug 2016

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)

11. We have the Chargepoint app. Most Chargepoint stations are free - whole foods, museum parking etc.

Reply to silverweb (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 1, 2016, 12:24 AM

Sep 2016

Hopefully we will be installing our home charger this weekend if I can get a free day. We bought a no-frills 240 volt GE home station for $400 bucks.

We have a plug-in hybrid Fusion that gets 25 miles on a charge. It's a nice stepping stone for us.

When cars start getting 300 plus miles on a charge like the new Tesla I think that will be a no brainer to go all electric.

5 to 6 plus hours of driving time. Fast charge at a CDMA fast station. Done. And that's for very rare cross country trips.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)

13. Nice!

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 1, 2016, 01:30 AM

Sep 2016

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]EVs are the future. I can't wait to put a headstone on the fossil fuel industry, and EVs will help bring that day closer.

magicnpoetry

(45 posts)

2. I have faith

Reply to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:07 AM

Aug 2016

Wall Street gets in a twist every time Tesla isn't perfect on their projections, but they are outdoing everyone else and it's exciting.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)

3. Counts Custom just up tricked one for Dee Snyder.

Reply to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:23 AM

Aug 2016

Cicada

(4,533 posts)

4. All that heat under the hood is wasted energy

Reply to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:57 AM

Aug 2016

Same with the heat out the tail pipe. And internal combustion cars are complicated as hell, thousands of parts to buy, repair, replace, haul around. As car battery prices fall electric cars will be way less costly to buy and operate. Internal combustion will pretty much become obsolete by 2020 or so.