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niyad

(113,232 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:00 PM Aug 2016

How a sexist T-shirt harms us all

How a sexist T-shirt harms us all
Chitra Ramaswamy

A Gap advert that pictures boys as brainy and girls as sociable reflects the distorted reality we live in
Gap store in San Francisco


‘Like advertising, and Gap, everyday sexism in children’s advertising is everywhere.’ Photograph: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg via Getty Images

The little girl looks winsomely into the middle distance, passive and unsmiling, presumably waiting for the next titbit of gossip to descend upon her kitten ears. The little boy grins and proudly shows off the image of Albert Einstein on his chest. “Your future starts here,” a new Gap advert tells him, which unfortunately is true. He is destined to be a “little scholar”. And the girl? A “social butterfly”, which isn’t even a job. Oh well, her chambray shirt (with pink logo, obviously) may not fast-track her into a science, technology, engineering and maths (Stem) subject but it will be “the talk of the playground”. And what more could a girl want?


Welcome to the world of everyday sexism in children’s advertising. Like advertising, and Gap, it is everywhere. Watch any TV advert aimed at children and you will see girls in shiny princess outfits emoting into microphones and boys dutifully pushing fire engines. Go to the children’s section of any clothes shop and you will encounter primary-coloured stripes for boys and pastel polka dots for girls. We are living in an age when even shapes are gendered. It is that ludicrous. The Gap ad designates boys as brainy and girls as sociable – gender stereotypes that have been around much longer than pink Lego. But people are fed up with it.

Last year a similar row arose when Marks & Spencer brought out a dinosaur-laden Natural History Museum clothing range for boys only, leading to the Labour MP Chi Onwurah to accuse the retailer of “gender specific marketing” and the launch of a #dinosaursforall campaign by Let Clothes Be Clothes. Unisex clothing is becoming more prevalent in adult ranges, with the high street retailer Zara launching its Ungendered line earlier this year. And small changes are happening in the grimly gendered world of toys, with Hamleys abandoning its pink and blue signs for girls and boys, and Sainsbury’s no longer labelling its doctor costumes for boys and nurse outfits for girls.

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The point is that all of it matters, and all of it is connected. Whether gender stereotyping takes place in an email, on a T-shirt, in a toy shop or at a school, the effects are serious for all of us. And they are far-reaching, with an impact on everything from the gender pay gap and women being under-represented in Stem sectors to widespread sexual bullying in schools. The Gap ad is not an anomaly: it is the product of the deeply gendered world in which we all live, work and are grossly misrepresented. This kind of gender stereotyping is harmful not only to girls and boys but to women, men and every gender in between. After all, each of us should grow with the possibility of becoming a scientist, a social butterfly, neither or both.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/02/gap-advert-sexist-t-shirt-harms-us-all-boys-girls-distorted-reality

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How a sexist T-shirt harms us all (Original Post) niyad Aug 2016 OP
So far as I can tell, it's all in the text? Sentath Aug 2016 #1
perhaps you should put on your glasses, and maybe even read the article. niyad Aug 2016 #2
I apologize for my tone Sentath Aug 2016 #7
the difference between einstein and social butterfly expectations is pretty clear, as well. niyad Aug 2016 #9
One thing to note about the Einstein picture Warpy Aug 2016 #13
one wonders how much of that pink and frills thing is actually engendered by the whole pink/blue niyad Aug 2016 #14
I learned to loathe pink, also Warpy Aug 2016 #15
excellent observations. our school uniforms were always navy blue, and the nuns' habits were niyad Aug 2016 #16
A big part of the problem is that people see things like this as harmless, sarae Aug 2016 #3
you are absolutely correct, people dismiss this as harmless (see post 1) niyad Aug 2016 #4
It seems to me they need a catergory other than Boys & Girls TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #20
You make a great point. I agree 100%. nt DLevine Sep 2016 #21
I remember taking my niece's measurements when she was 8 TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #22
the t shirts are not sexist, they are t shirts. maybe your gripe is with the ad campaign instead? msongs Aug 2016 #5
way to miss the point. the t-shirts are, indeed, sexist. niyad Aug 2016 #6
Can you explain? Beartracks Sep 2016 #19
Ridiculous.A tee shirt harms no one. virgogal Aug 2016 #8
way to miss the point. perhaps you could read the article. niyad Aug 2016 #10
I did read the article. virgogal Aug 2016 #11
again, way to miss the point. words hurt and harm, sexism hurts and harms, wherever and whenever. niyad Aug 2016 #12
The ire is misplaced. Igel Aug 2016 #17
wow--blame the women--a PERFECT example of the rampant sexism. no, I blame the niyad Aug 2016 #18

Sentath

(2,243 posts)
1. So far as I can tell, it's all in the text?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:09 PM
Aug 2016

The images are both on the .. masc side of fashion as far as I can tell. In fact until i looked again the initial impression (pre-glasses) was that it was the same model in both.

Or, I could just be an old batchelor and not give a flip about children's fashion 99.99% of the time ( :

Sentath

(2,243 posts)
7. I apologize for my tone
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:23 PM
Aug 2016

I came across poorly.

I was asking for clarity on why this set of images was chosen to headline for this article.

Sexist marketing is a plague upon us all.
The text is awful!

But aren't there clearer images to make this point?

EDIT: Like those provided in post #3 by sarae

niyad

(113,232 posts)
9. the difference between einstein and social butterfly expectations is pretty clear, as well.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

the sexist marketing at all levels (including the pink tax) is, indeed, a plague upon us all.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
13. One thing to note about the Einstein picture
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:09 PM
Aug 2016

is that it's the shot of him sticking his tongue out instead of obediently smiling for the camera (the back story). If it had been the scholarly Einstein, no little boy would want it. He'd want a superhero or sports figure.

Little girls gravitate toward pink and frills in preschool, something that a lot of Boomer friends of mine despaired over when they had kids. They grow out of it but at the age of 3 or 4, they're nearly all little princesses. My friends were all terrified their girls would end up fluttery, helpless, passive, and decorative. Didn't happen.

What they should have done is offer a pink Einstein. That "social butterfly" is demeaning, stupid, and a bad graphic design. A block letter instead of a butterfly? Who were they kidding?

niyad

(113,232 posts)
14. one wonders how much of that pink and frills thing is actually engendered by the whole pink/blue
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:12 PM
Aug 2016

gender identification thing starting in pregnancy? I have always despised the colour pink, unless in flowers.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
15. I learned to loathe pink, also
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:25 PM
Aug 2016

For one thing, it always costs a lot more than the same item in any other color.

Back in the 60s to the mid 80s, when we were buying into that "raise (gender stereotype) free children" stuff, friends would request items in any color but pink or blue. Onesies to blankets, they avoided pink and blue and many kept the Rit dye company in business getting rid of them in gifts. Even the women who exerted ironfisted control over the TV (Sesame Street yes, everything else, no) were shocked when their little girls exited toddlerhood and went for the ruffles and sparkles while the boys went for the dark colors and superhero shirts.

None of this had any bearing at all on who the kids grew up to be. It just did seem to be a hyper gender identification stage they all went through.

niyad

(113,232 posts)
16. excellent observations. our school uniforms were always navy blue, and the nuns' habits were
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:27 PM
Aug 2016

always black. not a lot of room for pink and frills.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
3. A big part of the problem is that people see things like this as harmless,
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:15 PM
Aug 2016

but when you combine all these messages we're bombarded with day after day, it's really insidious.

Here's another recent example:
http://jezebel.com/to-old-navy-toddler-boys-are-ghostbusters-and-toddler-1785916532

To Old Navy, Toddler Boys Are Ghostbusters and Toddler Girls Are 'Ghostbusters In Training'

Boys:


Girls:

niyad

(113,232 posts)
4. you are absolutely correct, people dismiss this as harmless (see post 1)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:16 PM
Aug 2016

I had not seen the ghostbuster thing. absolutely disgusting.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
20. It seems to me they need a catergory other than Boys & Girls
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 10:19 PM
Sep 2016

How about "Kids". Until puberty, boys and girls bodies are pretty similar proportions. T-shirts, jeans, khakis, button downs. Why do they have to be one sex or another?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,165 posts)
22. I remember taking my niece's measurements when she was 8
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:02 PM
Sep 2016

They were something like 26-24-26; basically a tube.

msongs

(67,394 posts)
5. the t shirts are not sexist, they are t shirts. maybe your gripe is with the ad campaign instead?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:17 PM
Aug 2016

nobody is stopping the little girl from wearing the einstein shirt except for the adults who provide shirts to her

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
19. Can you explain?
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 07:32 AM
Sep 2016

Just looking at the two t-shirts pictured in the OP...

Outside the context of the advertising, how is the Einstein t-shirt sexist? If it was hanging on the bargain rack at your local store, for example...

I will grant that even outside the context of the advertising, the pink t-shirt is sexist because all by itself it's clearly intended to be a "girl's" t-shirt.

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virgogal

(10,178 posts)
11. I did read the article.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:40 PM
Aug 2016

A tee shirt may offend,but it doesn't harm.

it's just a tee shirt,for heaven's sake.

If enough people are offended sales will not take place and the item will be removed from the market.

niyad

(113,232 posts)
12. again, way to miss the point. words hurt and harm, sexism hurts and harms, wherever and whenever.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:51 PM
Aug 2016

whether on t-shirts, billboards, magazines, whatever. and the fact that it is so pervasive and almost unacknowledged, or denied, is the problem.

the denial of the harm of sexism is clearly stated in the article.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
17. The ire is misplaced.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:09 PM
Aug 2016

The company's there to sell products.

If people--which means, really, given the age of the kids, their mothers--didn't agree with the advertising then they'd change.

It's the parents, mostly women, that you're upset with. But they're a harder target in oh so many ways.

niyad

(113,232 posts)
18. wow--blame the women--a PERFECT example of the rampant sexism. no, I blame the
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:34 PM
Aug 2016

damned merchandisers for putting that crap out there. it has to be out there before people buy it, you know.

but, keep on missing the point.

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