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Sentath

(2,243 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:46 PM Jan 2019

Vox: Tucker Carlson has sparked the most interesting debate in conservative politics

I thought it was interesting https://www.vox.com/2019/1/10/18171912/tucker-carlson-fox-news-populism-conservatism-trump-gop

Para 2:

America’s “ruling class,” Carlson says, are the “mercenaries” behind the failures of the middle class — including sinking marriage rates — and “the ugliest parts of our financial system.” He went on: “Any economic system that weakens and destroys families is not worth having. A system like that is the enemy of a healthy society.”


later:
Carlson told me he wanted to be clear: He is not a populist. But he believes some version of populism is necessary to prevent a full-scale political revolt or the onset of socialism. Using Theodore Roosevelt as an example of a president who recognized that labor needs economic power, he told me, “Unless you want something really extreme to happen, you need to take this seriously and figure out how to protect average people from these remarkably powerful forces that have been unleashed.”


So he's just hoping it can all be saved from itself, again.
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Vox: Tucker Carlson has sparked the most interesting debate in conservative politics (Original Post) Sentath Jan 2019 OP
He is part of the problem. Iliyah Jan 2019 #1
And he skipped the last Roosevelt who advocated successfully for the people. brush Jan 2019 #13
+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #14
Guy releases hounds...come back, hounds! BeyondGeography Jan 2019 #2
DUzy underpants Jan 2019 #5
if only we had qazplm135 Jan 2019 #3
... at140 Jan 2019 #4
He wants that. For white men. Recursion Jan 2019 #6
He is a fraud. He would never support any solutions to these problems. LonePirate Jan 2019 #7
Yep, the only RW solution to anything is tax cuts and trickle down... brush Jan 2019 #15
This is pretty common in RW world these days underpants Jan 2019 #8
That's all they have dalton99a Jan 2019 #10
Ok, cool Sentath Jan 2019 #9
Tucker Carlson is not interesting. Venal, ignorant and pretty disgusting, maybe. Never interesting. Squinch Jan 2019 #11
His show consists of one act: dalton99a Jan 2019 #12
His standard reaction shot portrays him as being permanently perplexed. Marcuse Jan 2019 #16
Fuck you, Rich Boy! Paladin Jan 2019 #17

brush

(53,759 posts)
13. And he skipped the last Roosevelt who advocated successfully for the people.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jan 2019

Guess he forgot about FDR signing the Wagner Act into law.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
3. if only we had
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jan 2019

collections of workers that banded together to give them increased bargaining power...a....what's the word I want to use...union! of people that gave them equal bargaining power with businesses and corporations.

The government would protect these unions as much as the companies themselves.

Crazy idea I know.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. He wants that. For white men.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jan 2019

This is why left-wing populism makes a lot of us nervous, particularly when politicians explicitly praise the economics of the 1950s. Because Carlson could peel off a lot of the Broletariat with them.

LonePirate

(13,412 posts)
7. He is a fraud. He would never support any solutions to these problems.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:52 PM
Jan 2019

There are no right wing solutions so Tucker can say “I told you so” as things worsen while he stands firmly against any realistic solutions.

brush

(53,759 posts)
15. Yep, the only RW solution to anything is tax cuts and trickle down...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jan 2019

neither of which work except for the rich.

underpants

(182,725 posts)
8. This is pretty common in RW world these days
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jan 2019

They still stick with the standard projection stuff - liberals are trying to control you!

Playing victim

Recently I’ve heard a lot of this “Populism from the Ivory Tower” stuff. Also there’s a standard bit about “identity politics” which was their creation back in the Lee Atwater days.

If you were them - especially “Shocked and Confused Spice” Tucker - what would you talk about? They’ve got to fill airtime.

Sentath

(2,243 posts)
9. Ok, cool
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

So this is just the right spitballing to itself and seeing what sticks so that it can pry apart and benefit the smallest group possible and still get the reduction in 'rebellious noise' that their masters are asking for.

Maybe we should get louder

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
11. Tucker Carlson is not interesting. Venal, ignorant and pretty disgusting, maybe. Never interesting.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jan 2019

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
17. Fuck you, Rich Boy!
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:40 PM
Jan 2019

You need to be eating a lot more, Tucker, your face isn't anywhere nearly round enough to suit me. Try stuffing yourself with some of your step-momma's TV dinners---make her even more wealthy......

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