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CanonRay

(14,093 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:13 PM Jan 2020

The Senate has become a threat to democracy itself

The Senate is on trial.

True, individual senators are serving as jurors, rather than defendants, during the impeachment of President Trump. But as an institution, the upper chamber also has something to prove. If ever there were a moment for the Senate to rise to the occasion — to show the American people that, after years of dysfunction, it is still what countless senators have long referred to as “the world’s greatest deliberative body” — that moment is now.

So far, the Senate is failing the test. Instead of demonstrating the upper chamber’s value as a steady hand guiding our democracy, the impeachment trial is confirming that the Senate has become a place where short-term political concerns beat out careful deliberation, and where partisanship has done away with open debate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/29/senate-has-become-threat-democracy-itself/?fbclid=IwAR1jtS1_HUQ0Ni-LF9_I5lj7HcjPMhhn0fmSza8ALFJ8FdAzwKIbhLOUVQM&utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

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The Senate has become a threat to democracy itself (Original Post) CanonRay Jan 2020 OP
Senate is emasculating itself Pantagruel Jan 2020 #1
Agree but that ship sailed 12 years ago. Midnightwalk Jan 2020 #2
Agree. PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #3
Completely agree! Karadeniz Jan 2020 #4
Not the Senate, Senate Republicans. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #5
Democrats have been complicit lees1975 Jan 2020 #6
 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
1. Senate is emasculating itself
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jan 2020

Destroying congressional subpoena power, destroys congressional oversight.
Congratulations, we're anointing a king.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
2. Agree but that ship sailed 12 years ago.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

This is just the corollary to mcconnel saying in 2008 that the senate was going to make Obama a one term president.

Republicans declared that loyalty to party was more important than loyalty to country.

Nothing has changed, just that trump is a republican president. So they support him unconditionally just as they opposed Obama unconditionally

PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
3. Agree.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jan 2020

Another ominous nail in the coffin for 2020. I read your New Year's OP, and I agree...it's all starting to feel more at risk than ever before in our history.

lees1975

(3,845 posts)
6. Democrats have been complicit
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jan 2020

because of all of those mid-term elections when they wouldn't go vote and let a lot of these senators get elected.

You have to go vote in the mid-terms and off year elections, the special elections and keep the pressure on. Gee, look at Alabama in 2018 when Doug Jones won a special election that attracted a lot of voters because it was the first time Alabamans had a real choice in decades, and because some active voter advocacy groups got out and worked the state to find and register thousands of people who hadn't voted for a long time because they'd been discouraged that the other side always seemed to win. Over 60% of the vote in 2016 went to Trump in Alabama, but when the Democrats, especially a group of black women who got out and knocked on doors, activated a lot of dormant voters who had given up on winning because the Republicans did all the time, and literally pushed them to the polls to vote, Jones won.

You need an active group who won't let these voter purges work by going to the people on the lists and registering them again. The Democrats just took out a MAGA hat wearing governor in Kentucky. Why not keep that voter group together and work to turn them all out for Amy McGrath to beat Moscow Mitch in November? Obviously the voters are there and a Democrat can win statewide in Kentucky.

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