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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:18 PM May 2020

Bill Moyers 2017 A Warning "Koch Brothers Bankroll Move to Rewrite the Constitution..."

Is this their end game? Trump, Pandemic, economic loss, welcome of global dictators, civil unrest & race riots... Are all the pieces already being put in place?

Know your enemies. A must read..
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Koch Brothers Bankroll Move to Rewrite the Constitution

A constitutional convention, something thought impossible not long ago, is looking increasingly likely.

BY ALEX KOTCH | MARCH 27, 2017

https://billmoyers.com/story/kochs-to-rewrite-constitution/

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"If America gets saddled with a runaway convention, the Koch coterie of funders will be to blame. Most of the groups pushing the convention idea are being underwritten by one or more institutions tied to billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch."


(This post originally appeared at the Center for Media and Democracy.)

A constitutional convention, something thought impossible not long ago, is looking increasingly likely. Under Article V of the US Constitution, if 34 state legislatures “issue a call” for a constitutional convention, Congress must convene one. By some counts, the right wing only needs six more states. Once called, delegates can propose and vote on changes and new amendments to the US Constitution, which, if approved, are currently required to be ratified by 38 states.

There are two major legislative pushes for a convention at the state level. One would attempt to engineer a convention for a balanced budget amendment only, and the other tries to secure an open convention for the purpose of limiting the power and jurisdiction of the federal government. But once a convention is underway, all bets are off. The convention can write its own rules, resulting in a wide-open or “runaway” convention that can make major changes to the constitution and, some argue, even change the number of states required to ratify those changes.

If America gets saddled with a runaway convention, the Koch coterie of funders will be to blame. Most of the groups pushing the convention idea are being underwritten by one or more institutions tied to billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch.

On Feb. 24, Wyoming became the 29th state to pass a resolution requesting a convention specifically to add a single balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. Many of these legislative resolutions also attempt to set the rules for the convention and limit who can attend it to a select list of largely GOP state leaders.

Austerity advocates claim that they need only to convince five of seven targeted states — Arizona, Kentucky, Minnesota, Montana, South Carolina, Virginia and Wisconsin — to get on board, and they will have enough states to convene a convention. As the Center for Media and Democracy has reported, three linked measures were just introduced in Wisconsin and were placed on a fast track to approval.

If America gets saddled with a runaway convention, the Koch coterie of funders will be to blame.
Another faction representing a broader “Convention of States” initiative is advocating an open constitutional convention to limit “the power and jurisdiction of the federal government.” Because this open convention format would be called on a particular subject rather than a particular amendment, representatives would likely vote on any number of measures.

Legislatures in nine states — Arizona, Georgia, Alaska, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Indiana, Oklahoma and Louisiana — have signed on to the Convention of States resolution. Texas appears likely to join in, as the state Senate approved a Convention of States bill in February. Republican Gov. Greg Abbott is fiercely campaigning for a convention and has deemed it an “emergency issue.” In 2016, he published a 70-page plan that includes nine proposed amendments aimed at severely limiting federal authority, even allowing a two-thirds majority of the states to override a Supreme Court ruling or a federal law.

Groups like the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, Common Cause and the Center for Media and Democracy have raised the alarm about these efforts. No convention has been called since 1787 in Philadelphia, where George Washington presided.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities explains why any convention call, no matter how narrowly written, is likely to result in a “runaway” convention. A convention is empowered to write its own rules, including how delegates are chosen, how many delegates attend and whether a supermajority is required to approve amendments.

Nothing in the Constitution prevents a convention, once convened, from setting its own agenda, influenced by powerful special interests like the Koch groups. A convention could even choose an entirely new ratification process.


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The Koch Connection to the Push For a Constitutional Convention

Libertarian billionaires Charles and David Koch have long opposed federal power and federal spending. Koch Industries is one of the nation’s biggest polluters
and has been sanctioned and fined over and over again by both federal and state authorities. In response, the Kochs have launched a host of “limited government” advocacy organizations and have created a massive $400 million campaign finance network, fueled by their fortunes and those of their wealthy, right-wing allies, that rivals the two major political parties.

The Kochs’ Americans for Prosperity says it favors a balanced budget convention. Such an austerity amendment would drastically cut the size of the federal government, threatening critical programs like Social Security and Medicare and eviscerating the government’s ability to respond to economic downturns, major disasters and the climate crisis.

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More Koch Money Pushing Austerity Amendment

ALEC has been instrumental in providing us a forum within which to present our campaign, recruit sponsors and approve model legislation that legislators can be confident in,” claims the site.

Another big backer of the balanced budget amendment approach is the Chicago-based Heartland Institute,
which is also tied to the Koch brothers. A member of ALEC, it has received $5.6 million from the Donors Capital Fund since 2011 and tens of thousands of dollars each from the Charles Koch Foundation and the Claude R. Lambe Foundation


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Koch-linked groups having provided nearly $5.4 million to CSG from the group’s founding in 2011 through 2015:


*Donors Trust, a preferred secret money conduit for individuals and foundations in the Koch network of funders
, has given CSG at least $790,000 since 2011.

*The Greater Houston Community Foundation, which is funded by Donors Capital Fund (linked to Donors Trust) and the Kochs’ Knowledge and Progress Fund, has donated over $2 million since 2011.

*The Vanguard Charitable Endowment Program, which has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Donors Capital Fund, gave $2.5 million from 2012-13.

*Citizens for Self-Governance also has two Koch-connected board members. Eric O’Keefe is a director of the Wisconsin Club for Growth, a group which has taken in considerable funding from Koch-linked groups like the Center to Protect Patient Rights, and was at the center of the long-running “John Doe” criminal investigation of Scott Walker’s campaign coordination with dark money groups.

O’Keefe was the national field coordinator for the Libertarian Koch Brothers Bankroll Move to Rewrite the Constitutionbertarian Party when David Koch ran for vice president in 1979 on the Libertarian Party ticket. The party’s platform called for the end of campaign finance law, the minimum wage, “oppressive Social Security,” Medicaid, Medicare and federal deficit spending.

The Koch agenda has not changed much since.

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"If America faces the madness of a runaway convention, voters of both parties will know whom to blame."

https://billmoyers.com/story/kochs-to-rewrite-constitution/

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Bill Moyers 2017 A Warning "Koch Brothers Bankroll Move to Rewrite the Constitution..." (Original Post) Budi May 2020 OP
Linky-winky? Newest Reality May 2020 #1
Wisconsin has been shouting this since 2009. LakeArenal May 2020 #2
No link to source, and you're way over the 4 paragraph limit for copyright Fiendish Thingy May 2020 #3
Birchers JustGene May 2020 #4
Yup. John Birch Society. They were sent underground back in the 50's/60's only to ... Budi May 2020 #6
Apologies: LINK ... Budi May 2020 #5
Is there a time limit to vote in favor of a Convention? IOW, if Idaho votes to hold a convention no_hypocrisy May 2020 #7
The irony of Trump's coziness with the former KGB agent? czarjak May 2020 #8
Yup. Budi May 2020 #9

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
3. No link to source, and you're way over the 4 paragraph limit for copyright
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:30 PM
May 2020

What people seem to forget is that while a Constitutional Convention allows for a separate process to PROPOSE new amendments, the RATIFICATION process remains unchanged.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. Yup. John Birch Society. They were sent underground back in the 50's/60's only to ...
Sun May 31, 2020, 12:47 PM
May 2020

regroup under the cover of various fringe groups. Forming & funding all including The Tea Party & what followed.

If you're advocating against any for of our Democracy..you're supporting the Libertarian Kochs.

They have never stopped their mission of undermining the American Democracy Experiment..of, by, & for the people.

They are probably the greatest threat we have & they've been at it forever.

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KNOW YOUR ENEMIES

Thanks for posting the connection to the Birchers, because without knowing their dangerous history, it is easy to be led blind...

I vaguely recall a Bircher/Kennedy connection & it's not a pleasant one.
I'll have to see what I can find on that subject..

Somedays it's damned necessary to have the wisdom & knowledge of being an Establishment Boomer.

This shit goes back a long way in US history.
Yet here we are..2020



no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
7. Is there a time limit to vote in favor of a Convention? IOW, if Idaho votes to hold a convention
Sun May 31, 2020, 03:30 PM
May 2020

and ten years later, there's no convention, does that vote still count?

When the ERA was proposed as an amendment to the Constitution, and Virginia last year passed a resolution in its favor, it was argued that it was "too late" due to time limits.

Would this standard apply to a Constitutional Convention?

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