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appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 05:51 AM Jun 2020

Black Americans Message For Democrats: Not Being Trump Is Not Enough: NYT

'Black Americans Have A Message For Democrats: Not Being Trump Is Not Enough,' The New York Times, May 31, 2020.

Columbia, S.C.- In an on-camera address after a week of destructive protests, former vice president Joseph R. Biden Jr. pleaded with his audience to imagine life for black people in America. Imagine, he said, “if every time your husband or son, wife or daughter left the house, you feared for their safety.” Imagine the police called on you for sitting in Starbucks. "The anger and frustration and the exhaustion, it’s undeniable,” he said. Exhaustion. For many black Americans across the country, what a year this month has been.

The coronavirus pandemic has continued to disproportionately kill black people, and a spate of high profile killings in recent months in Georgia, Kentucky, and Minnesota, the latter two at the hands of the police, led to widespread demonstrations nationwide. Protests shook more than three dozen cities on Saturday as crowds expressed outrage over the death of George Floyd, a black security guard who was killed in police custody in Minneapolis. Demonstrators shut down freeways, set fires and battled police batons and tear gas, the pain and frustration of the moment spilling out into the streets.

In Columbia, the city where Mr. Biden delivered his victory speech after the South Carolina primary just over three months ago, demonstrators on Saturday said they were demanding more than what it seemed like an election in November would deliver. Not only justice for the death of George Floyd, but change in political and economic power that would prevent the death of another black person in police custody, another brutal video going viral.

"I'm tired of coming out here," said Devean Moon, a 21-year-old Columbia resident, one of hundreds who participated in the peaceful protests in the city. “I’m tired of feeling forced to do all this.” It dawned on Sierra Moore, 24, who attended the protests carrying a homemade sign that read “No Justice, No Peace,” that she and her grandmother have been protesting the same issues over the course of a century...

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- As Columbia protests, University of South Carolina leaders make their voices heard.

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Black Americans Message For Democrats: Not Being Trump Is Not Enough: NYT (Original Post) appalachiablue Jun 2020 OP
Title should be "A few Black Americans . . ." OneBro Jun 2020 #1
Oh please . . . Iliyah Jun 2020 #2
I'm not sure you're right about this. UncleTomsEvilBrother Jun 2020 #5
they expect better from Democrats Skittles Jun 2020 #10
Joe Biden is a lot more than "not being Trump" WTF, man? Joinfortmill Jun 2020 #3
Racial tensions seems to cycle up and down.. Maxheader Jun 2020 #4
The title of your post brought an analogy to my mind. Collimator Jun 2020 #6
It's a good start, though... Blue_Tires Jun 2020 #7
Stupid egotistical nonsense zak247 Jun 2020 #8
Evolve zak247 Jun 2020 #9

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
1. Title should be "A few Black Americans . . ."
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:32 AM
Jun 2020

For this ONE Black American, today, not being Trump IS enough to get my vote. This is the same subtle, slow-burn type “reporting” the New York Times did when Hillary was running, culminating in the legitimacy it gave to all the email bullshit.

Some days the NYT is like a once favorite cousin who steals your weed and flirts with your lover. You still love ‘em because of the good old days, but you’d be a damned fool to let your guard down when they’re around.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Oh please . . .
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 06:36 AM
Jun 2020

Black America and other people of color are going to let shithole cake walk back into office?

Progressives, conservatives, centrists of all races will come out to vote.

5. I'm not sure you're right about this.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:28 AM
Jun 2020

I hope you are, but I'm not sure, though. This protesting group is engaged, and they know they are making history right now. Not only do they have their own technology, but their parents are telling them things like, "I've not seen people this mad since King was assassinated."

Because of that, I think Biden and DEMS need to listen and try to move towards what protesters are seeking. Some of it is actually low hanging fruit. They are asking for things like, "A cop can't be rehired at another station once he's been fired for misconduct," and "There should be a review of all cop contracts after 5 years." That doesn't seem so hard.


Even if it's lip service, DEMS need to get in front of this. They should promise sweeping changes and should start demanding them now.

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
4. Racial tensions seems to cycle up and down..
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:06 AM
Jun 2020

And the yellow haired peckerhead is intentionally trying to jackup the violence,

Why? I don't know for sure...

Joe will have a hard time satisfying the rioters demands..But eventually a choice will

need to be made and I can only hope the turnout for mr. B...is as strong as it was for

obama...

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
6. The title of your post brought an analogy to my mind.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jun 2020

Back when I had a little money [ pause for nostalgic sigh ], the advisor talked about playing yo-yo while walking up the stairs. The idea was that certain stocks might go up and down in the short-term, but that they would slowly trend upwards in value over the long term.

So, racial tensions may flare and subside regarding individual interactions, but one would desperately want to believe that things are slowly, measurably getting better. We did have Obama, right?

For all my pride and excitement, I never believed that Obama's election indicated that we lived in a post-racial world. But I also dismissed the idea of coming race war--a sentiment that I heard expressed by both angry white people feeling threatened in their privilege and angry black people who--in my mind at the time--could not acknowledge the progress that had made.

Well, I don't a war within my own country at all. But I have a lot more respect for the perspective of the those angry black people. Pointing out to them, "But we had a black president!" sounds as about as lame as "Hey, at least you're not slaves anymore."

No, black people aren't technically slaves anymore, but their movements and actions are being tracked and monitored and judged and punished in a way that makes it very clear that they should still "know their place" and not encroach in the spaces of "decent white folk".

Living in fear is bondage. Knowing that you can beaten or killed by officers of the law for being black in the wrong place at the wrong time is the opposite of freedom. I can't claim to truly understand what it is to live under such oppression, but I can at least try to sympathize.

 

zak247

(251 posts)
8. Stupid egotistical nonsense
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jun 2020

For those black folks who want perfection then you'll have to die and go to heaven. Human beings are not going to be 100 percent to your liking


ITS AN EGOTISTICAL, SILLY NOTION
GROW UP

 

zak247

(251 posts)
9. Evolve
Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jun 2020

Unfortunately, we're going to have murders, and injustice to some degree before God, the universe or whatever finally somehow cures humankind of all those loathsome elements of selfishness and greed and ignorance that weigh down the back of humankind and degrades us.

All we can do is try to evolve to be better human beings and fight for justice and the downtrodden, the poor, and those denied good.

But STOP demanding everyone think like you and demanding a perfection you yourself cant live up to

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