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quaint

(2,563 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:37 AM Jun 2020

'Things fall apart': the apocalyptic appeal of WB Yeats's The Second Coming

The Guardian

Written 100 years ago, Yeats’s poem has been absorbed into the cultural bloodstream from Chinua Achebe to The Sopranos, Joan Didion to Gordon Gecko. Why is it such a touchstone in times of chaos?

n April 1936, three years before his death, WB Yeats received a letter from the writer and activist Ethel Mannin. The 70-year-old Yeats was a Nobel prize-winning poet of immense stature and influence, not to mention Mannin’s former lover, and she asked him to join a campaign to free a German pacifist incarcerated by the Nazis. Yeats responded instead with a reading recommendation: “If you have my poems by you, look up a poem called ‘The Second Coming’,” he wrote. “It was written some sixteen or seventeen years ago & foretold what is happening. I have written of the same thing again & again since. This will seem little to you with your strong practical sense for it takes fifty years for a poet’s weapons to influence the issue.”


DUers have quoted this poem often during crisis.

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'Things fall apart': the apocalyptic appeal of WB Yeats's The Second Coming (Original Post) quaint Jun 2020 OP
Thanks for posting this, chia Jun 2020 #1
Poetry seems to capture things best Moral Compass Jun 2020 #2

chia

(2,244 posts)
1. Thanks for posting this,
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jun 2020
By 1963, the aphoristic couplet about the best and the worst was enough of a cliche to irritate the critic Raymond Williams. “The lines are regularly used as rhetorical tactics in the defence of anybody’s sanity against anybody else’s enthusiasm,” he complained.


Love that complaint.

This poem has accompanied me for many years, and now I can understand why:

Early drafts of the poem illustrate Yeats’s dedication to universalising his message, as he deletes specific references to the French Revolution and the first world war and replaces terrestrial images of judges and tyrants with figures from dreams and myths. This “productive vagueness”, says David Dwan, an associate professor of English at Oxford University, is what makes the poem ever-relevant.


while my admiration for Yeat's craft grows:

Evident, too, in the drafts is Yeats’s painstaking refinement of each line. “All things have begun to break and fall apart” is distilled into “Things fall apart”; “The centre has lost” becomes “The centre cannot hold”. The beast that has blandly “set out” for Bethlehem “slouches” instead.

Moral Compass

(1,517 posts)
2. Poetry seems to capture things best
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jun 2020

I think often of the poets that I’ve read. I love TS Eliot and his work “the wasteland” and “the hollow men”.

And I love Yeats. I don’t think a day goes by that I don’t think of this particular poem.

These poems were written in times worse than these although I fear we are headed in a direction that will prove bloodier than even WWI and WWII.

Again this poem resonates with our times. Mere anarchy has been loosed upon our world.

All these works are about dissolution and decay.

The final line of The Hollow Men is memorable. This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper...

Democracy died in 2000. It went quietly and with little protest. Gore v Bush and it was all over. Now we are seeing what happens when a malignant narcissistic madman takes over in a country where the people have no power.

The knee will soon be on all of our necks.

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