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mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:41 PM Sep 2012

Wow, ex-Reagan Treasury staffer on "empty chair."

Not like he's holding anything back:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/05/republicans-cross-the-rubicon/

Includes a new take on what Clint may have been saying, for real:

[div class ="excerpt"]One would also have thought that NPR and its pundits would have found Clint Eastwood’s speech a fascinating topic of discussion. Eastwood had a Republican National Committee approved speech, but discarded it. Instead, Eastwood stood beside an empty chair and pretended to be talking to Obama, but it could just as well have been Romney in the chair. By pretending to be talking to Obama, Eastwood made his points without eliciting boos from the Republican audience.

Not many in the Republican audience caught on, but there were some stony faces when Eastwood said “I haven’t cried that hard since I found out that there are 23 million unemployed people in this country.” More stony Republican faces when Eastwood showed his opposition to the Iraq and Afghan wars and asks the chair, “why don’t you just bring them [the troops] home tomorrow morning?” Those who thought he was digging at Obama cheered; those who realized he was criticizing hardline Republican positions were displeased.

But NPR and the US media in general are uncomfortable with such real news as a political party being told off by one of its heroes and a political party sufficiently stupid to repeat Barry Goldwater’s mistake. The establishment might complain. The money might dry up or employees be fired for permitting such a story to be aired. The Democrats lost their independent financing when jobs offshoring destroyed the unions. There are no longer countervailing powers to Wall Street and the corporations, which have been endowed by the Republican US Supreme Court with First Amendment rights to purchase US elections and placed in charge of the US Treasury, the regulatory agencies and the Federal Reserve.

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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. "... Democrats lost their independent financing when jobs offshoring destroyed the unions ..."
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:44 PM
Sep 2012

And when union-busters like Scott Walker took power.

It's up to all of us to step up and fill the gap left by the destruction of America's organized labor.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
3. "Control is the operative word."
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:52 PM
Sep 2012

We have to be aware of what the Other Side is all about:

excerpt:

Control is the operative word. We have seen for a number of years now that the Republican Party is power-addicted. Remember when the Bush administration fired the US Attorneys who refused the order to indict only Democrats? Remember the Republican Party’s transparent frame-up of popular Alabama Democratic governor Don Siegelman? Evidence indicates that the Republican operative Karl Rove took advantage of a Republican federal judge, vulnerable according to news reports to corruption charges, and a compliant Republican US attorney in Alabama to railroad Governor Siegelman. The message to Democrats was: if you get elected in our Southern Territory, we will get you.


The whole essay is really worth a read.

Alwaysna

(574 posts)
9. union busting
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:29 PM
Sep 2012

Reagan had a hand in union busting with the air traffic controllers more than 30 years ago.

left on green only

(1,484 posts)
4. Interesting interpretation of Eastwood's speech
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:53 PM
Sep 2012

When I heard Eastwood's words, I just thought that he must have had dinner with John Bonner and Ben Gleck and all the rest of the rethuglican party who foster blame for everything in this country that they don't like, on the president.

enough

(13,256 posts)
5. Very interesting wide ranging views from Paul Craig Roberts.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:01 PM
Sep 2012

Bio from the link:

Paul Craig Roberts is a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. His latest book, Wirtschaft am Abgrund (Economies In Collapse) has just been published.

another snip from the article>

In the US, even your friendly local police have gone over to dictatorship. And they are armed with its tools. A friend, a competitive shooter for accuracy, told me that as he left his gun club on August 27, a local sheriff department entered in a military armored vehicle, something one would expect to see on a battlefield, followed by a large sheriff’s department truck full of military equipment. He says that the gun club allows local police to use the club’s facilities so that club members are not stopped and harassed about their firearms as they go to and from the club. He reports that the police will line up 30 abreast, with automatic weapons, not allowed to club members, and fire at one target, with 30 police emptying 30-round magazines at the same target.

He once asked our protectors if they were practicing for some competition. The answer was, “No, we are preparing to control the outcome when there is trouble.”

Control is the operative word. We have seen for a number of years now that the Republican Party is power-addicted. Remember when the Bush administration fired the US Attorneys who refused the order to indict only Democrats? Remember the Republican Party’s transparent frame-up of popular Alabama Democratic governor Don Siegelman? Evidence indicates that the Republican operative Karl Rove took advantage of a Republican federal judge, vulnerable according to news reports to corruption charges, and a compliant Republican US attorney in Alabama to railroad Governor Siegelman. The message to Democrats was: if you get elected in our Southern Territory, we will get you.

much more>

brewens

(13,563 posts)
6. I liked the bit where "invisible Obama" told Clint to tell Robme to go..........himself!
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

I took that as exactly what I would have loved to see Obama be able to do! Conversely, a serious slap in the face to Robme and his supporters! That was the best part. "I don't care who ya are, that there's funny!"

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
8. Meanwhile Eastwood is doubling down
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:14 PM
Sep 2012

and calling Obama the greatest hoax perpetrated on America. But, I still think the points of this author stand. I think Roberts is spot on when he claims Eastwood was using the chair as a surrogate to tell off the GOP. But, in the end it doesn't matter what Eastwood's intent was. If he did it on purpose to put a finger in the eye of the GOP mission accomplished. He made the GOP look like a group of angry old men yelling at chairs, because this is in fact what they have become. They hate and are afraid of everything. They fear the liberty of people to marry and they fear government ensuring that people get the health care they need. If Eastwood intended to help the GOP he couldn't have missed the mark by any further than he did, Eastwood's chair upstaged the star of the show.

Mitt Romney is going to have a hard time living that one down. Mitt is in fact having such a hard time of it he is in blackout in Ohio and I hear reports of other swing states not running ads. His campaign is in disarray and he is already preparing for the debates one month from now. He needs much more than a month, but a competent debater would be able to run a campaign and prepare for a debate at the same time. Never accuse Romney of being able to multi-task he couldn't even handle the soft task of making nice with our allies on his European Vacation. Image what he would be like negotiating with not so friendly nations.

VPStoltz

(1,295 posts)
10. My dreams was to Biden walk out followed by a clothes rack with an empty suit hanging on it.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 10:56 PM
Sep 2012

He would start a conversation with the empty suit only to have another follow.
He'd try to have a conversation with the two suits representing the two sides of every issue that Robbedme has taken.

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
12. What a great conversation
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:12 PM
Sep 2012

that would have been. 2 empty suits. I'll laugh all afternoon over your post. THANKS!

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. I think everyone's forgetting that Eastwood is...
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 11:19 PM
Sep 2012

a bitter octagenarian libertarian who fashions himself an artiste and intellectual of the cinema. This is the guy who wrote and directed "Pale Rider." Need any more of a hint?

This bit of performance art was aimed at both sides-- Obama is an empty chair, while Romney is an empty suit.

I found it fascinating, and students will be playing with it for years.

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
13. I thought it
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:14 PM
Sep 2012

was pretty good theater, then to hear it was off script, even better. Yes I think he bashed both sides, and I'm thrilled it to the luster off of Romeny during his big week in Tampa...

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