Fuck you Jonas Salk
This article is from the San Francisco Chronicle and this is a convenient link:
http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Rogue-virus-in-the-vaccine-Early-polio-vaccine-2899957.php
extract :
On July 6, 1960, concerned that a monkey virus might be contaminating the polio vaccine, Eddy took her findings to Dr. Joseph Smadel, chief of the NIH's biologics division. Smadel dismissed the tumors as harmless "lumps."
The same year, however, at a Merck laboratory in Pennsylvania, Dr. Maurice Hilleman and Dr. Ben Sweet isolated the virus. They called it simian virus 40, or SV40, because it was the 40th virus found in rhesus kidney tissue. Immunization campaign, 1961 By then, the nation was winning the war against polio. Nearly 98 million Americans - more than 60 percent of the population - had received at least one injection of the Salk vaccine, and the number of cases was plummeting. At the same time, an oral polio vaccine developed by virologist Albert Sabin was in final trials in Russia and Eastern Europe, where tens of millions had been inoculated, and it was about to be licensed in the United States. Unlike the Salk vaccine, the oral version contained a live but weakened form of polio virus and promised lifelong immunity.
But U.S. Public Health Service officials were worried. Tests had found SV40 in both the Sabin and Salk vaccines - it was later estimated that as much as a third of the Salk vaccine was tainted - and that SV40 was causing cancer in lab animals.
In early 1961, they quietly met with the agency's top vaccine advisers. The agency found no evidence that the virus had been harmful to humans, but in March, the officials ordered manufacturers to eliminate SV40 from all future vaccine.
New procedures were adopted to neutralize the tainted polio virus seed stock and SV40-free African green monkeys were used to produce the bulk vaccine instead of rhesus monkeys.
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The US did not destroy the tainted stock - they exported it.
Please read the entire article. Link to SV40 here :
SV40 is an abbreviation for Simian vacuolating virus 40 or Simian virus 40, a polyomavirus that is found in both monkeys and humans. Like other polyomaviruses, SV40 is a DNA virus that has the potential to cause tumors, but most often persists as a latent infection.
SV40 became a highly controversial subject after it was revealed that millions were exposed to the virus after receiving a contaminated polio vaccine.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40
edited to original source.
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)©2002 San Francisco Chronicle
The link is to a reprint.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Even more troubling, the virus has been detected in tumors removed from people never inoculated with the contaminated vaccine, leading some to worry that those infected by the vaccine might be spreading SV40.
Ratty
(2,100 posts)Some choice articles:
Smallpox, The Looming Disaster of Mandatory Vaccinations
Autism, Encephalitis, & Vaccination
Vaccinations in Africa - a new twist
Are vaccinations used for curent population control by sterilising mothers in developing countries?
THIS IS WHY I WOULD NEVER VACCINATE MY CHILDREN!!!
Early polio vaccine harbored virus now feared to cause cancer! Rogue virus in the vaccine
CDC Advances Totalitarian Legislation Under Guise of "Public Health":
Forced Drugging and Injections Are On The Horizon
Shaken Baby Syndrome or Adverse Vaccine Reaction?
All followed by a [sic] of course.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Its a reprint of a San Francisco Chronicle article as you would've known if you read it..
LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)It was an awful tragedy. But ít does not negate the importance and benefits of the polio vaccine as a whole. In 1952, the year of the last major polio epidemic before the vaccine was introduced, 3,145 people died in the USA alone, and 21,269 were left paralyzed (according to Wikipedia, but it supports what I have heard elsewhere.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)I was writing when you posted that and the comment wasn't directed at you.
Journeyman
(15,024 posts)Or any other studies to confirm these findings?
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)would've been shown in the US.
See here too :
SV40 is an abbreviation for Simian vacuolating virus 40 or Simian virus 40, a polyomavirus that is found in both monkeys and humans. Like other polyomaviruses, SV40 is a DNA virus that has the potential to cause tumors, but most often persists as a latent infection.
SV40 became a highly controversial subject after it was revealed that millions were exposed to the virus after receiving a contaminated polio vaccine.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)Evidence that SV40 is present in human tumors
SV40 DNA has been detected in several human tumors, including osteosarcoma, mesothelioma, and non-Hodgkins lymphoma. Similar tumors are induced by the virus in hamsters.
Poliovirus vaccine produced in 1954 contained a variant of SV40 that can be distinguished from common laboratory strains. This viral variant has been found in three non-Hodgkins lymphoma patients
Evidence that SV40 is not present in human tumors
SV40 DNA is not present in all samples of a cancer, and in some studies of mesotheliomas, it has not been detected in any.
SV40 viral DNA has been detected in tumors of those who could not have received contaminated poliovirus vaccine.
In a comparison of mesotheliomas and normal tissues, SV40 DNA has been detected as frequently in both.
Analysis of the SV40 sequences in mesotheliomas showed that the viral DNA was derived from a laboratory strain which contains a gap that is not present in the wild type viral genome.
Even if SV40 DNA were definitively shown to be present in human tumors, this would not answer the question of whether the virus caused the cancer. The debate on the role of SV40 in human malignancy illustrates the difficulty in establishing cause and effect, and provides ample impetus for using genomic technologies to ensure that vaccines and other biological products are free of adventitious agents.
http://www.virology.ws/2010/04/13/poliovirus-vaccine-sv40-and-human-cancer/
Seems inconclusive. Interesting stuff, thanks.
Journeyman
(15,024 posts)Thanks for the link as well to Dr. Racaniello's website. I look forward to reading it in depth.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)that it was not those who had the flawed vacs pre-1960 who were affected - it is their children and grandchildren.
No - I cannot access the BBC documentary from years ago on the subject which discussed this.
LeftishBrit
(41,203 posts)Would you seriously rather return to the days of polio? You are usually saner than that!
Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #8)
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Aristus
(66,286 posts)of trying to think.
"Let's see: believe the trained immunologist or the Playboy Bunny? Hmmmm."
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)who can never be questioned, come out in numbers --to ensure that dissenting opinions are not aired.
I'm sure some people are expressing their own ideas, I'm equally sure some of the enforcers of the code of conformity are paid trolls. or unpaid.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)there is no other suspected path in which the SV40 virus could've got into our children and grandchildren. It's presence in the flawed vaccine up to the early '60s was found to be beyond doubt.
I am not anti vaccine and neither is anyone I know.
If it wasn't an issue why did this occur ?
Upon the discovery that SV40 was an animal carcinogen that had found its way into the polio vaccines, a new federal law was passed in 1961 that required that no vaccines contain this virus. However, this law did not require that SV40 contaminated vaccines be thrown away or that the contaminated seed material (used to make all polio vaccines for the next four decades) be discarded. As a result, known SV40 contaminated vaccines were injected into children up until 1963. In addition, it has been alleged that there have been SV40-contaminated batches of oral polio vaccine administered to some children until the end of the 1990's.
http://www.sv40foundation.org/
muriel_volestrangler
(101,268 posts)I see that not even the anti-vax site came up with the 'fuck you, Jonas Salk' - that was you. Salk saved many lives, and improved even more, with his vaccine. The article does not indicate he had anything at all to do with the decisions after the virus was discovered. Do you really hold that the Salk vaccine has been a bad thing, overall?
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)In 1941, at the University of Michigan, doctors Francis and Jonas Salk and other researchers deliberately infected patients at several Michigan mental institutions with the influenza virus by spraying the virus into their nasal passages. Francis Rous, editor of the Journal of Experimental Medicine wrote the following to Francis regarding the experiments:
"It may save you much trouble if you publish your paper ... elsewhere than in the Journal of Experimental Medicine. The Journal is under constant scrutiny by the anti-vivisectionists who would not hesitate to play up the fact that you used for your tests human beings of a state institution. That the tests were wholly justified goes without saying."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)In December 1997 Channel 4 showed a Dispatches investigative television documentary I co-produced with Rosie Thomas. It was on one of the most serious topics I have ever investigated. What we found was more serious than the Mad Cow outbreak - but perhaps because our program went out just before Christmas, the newspapers did not cover it. The following is a copy of the leaflet I wrote to go with the program. Please distribute. Jani Roberts.
In 1961&endash;2, the Medical Research Council in Britain reported that a monkey virus &endash; simian virus 40 (SV40) &endash; that caused cancer in hamsters was contaminating the polio vaccine given to millions of people around the world. However, SV40 was then presumed not to harm humans. When, in 1972, the New England Journal of Medicine reported that the virus had been detected in human brain cancers, no alarm was taken. Then in 1996, a number of scientists reported finding SV40 in many human cancers of the bone, brain and lung lining, and that the virus causes 'severe chromosome damage' in human cells.
These research findings were finally taken very seriously. In January 1997, the first international scientific workshop on SV40, sponsored jointly by the US government's major health agencies, was held in Washington DC. Over 100 scientists from around the world attended &endash; as did a senior representative of the UK's Department of Health and film producers commissioned by Channel 4's Dispatches.
Many at this conference now believe that the most likely source for the monkey virus contamination of the human population was the millions of doses of polio vaccine distributed around the world between 1955 and 1963, including in the UK. That the polio vaccine had been contaminated was actually admitted in Parliament back in 1988, but at that time the government said it believed the virus to be harmless in humans. But research from many laboratorities was presented at However, in the opinion of the 1997 conference, that indicated that SV40, &endash; now endemic in the human population, could &endash; could have a role in causing thousands of human cancers.
http://www.witch.plus.com/monkey-viruses.html
The overall issue isn't just that it infected those vaccinated with flawed vaccine its that it was then passed onto their children. You will not find any other references to how children who never had the flawed vaccine could possibly have dna related to SV40 in the bodies other than by inheritance.
From today we have this "DNA test reveals 80 markers for inherited cancer risk" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21945812 so at least they'll look for it more closely now.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,268 posts)As your Wikipedia link points out, the connection between the virus and cancers in humans is not clear. The lives saved, and improvement in quality of life, from a polio vaccine, has clearly outweighed the worst assumptions of what the virus may have caused. But I guess you needed to blow off steam with the 'fuck you' to a guy who saved lives.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)If was I wouldn't have bothered to have tetanus and hep A a couple of years back. Never had any issues with either of my children having the full works either. In fact I don't even know anyone who is here - thought that was just US paranoia.
To my mind ignoring this subject is no different from ignoring climate change for example - don't make it go away.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,268 posts)you are clearly shpowing you are against the polio vaccine ever being invented. You are anti-vaccine. You have to accept it.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)It was in response to a post elsewhere which failed to tell the whole story and the sheer number of friends who've died from brain tumours one of which was my wife. My wife wasn't anti vacs either.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,268 posts)You're blaming Salk. I'm sorry about your wife, but the link between any human cancer and the vaccine is unproven. But it wasn't Salk who made any decisions about continuing to use an infected supply. The lives saved are proven, however.