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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 01:27 PM Jun 2014

10 lessons from Bush's fiasco in Iraq

1. Don't Fight Wars on the Cheap

Going to war without the manpower needed to bring victory and secure the peace was one of the first things the Bush administration should have learned in Afghanistan. In December 2001, a lack of U.S. ground forces enabled the escape of Osama Bin Laden from the Tora Bora cave complex that should have been his burial ground. By March 2002, President Bush could only downplay the fiasco by declaring, "I just don't spend that much time on him .... I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."

But by the beginning of 2003, Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld were repeating their mistake, only on a much larger scale. That February top Army General Eric Shinseki warned Congress and the Bush administration that the American occupation of Iraq would require "something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers." And for that honesty and prescience, General Shinseki was mocked and ridiculed. As Rumsfeld put it:


The idea that it would take several hundred thousand U.S. forces, I think, is far from the mark.

Rumsfeld's deputy Paul Wolfowitz was even more scathing. Wolfowitz, who just days after the invasion claimed "we're dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon," lambasted Shinseki at a hearing of the House Budget Committee:

Some of the higher-end predictions that we have been hearing recently, such as the notion that it will take several hundred thousand U.S. troops to provide stability in post-Saddam Iraq, are wildly off the mark.


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10 lessons from Bush's fiasco in Iraq (Original Post) bemildred Jun 2014 OP
I hope the end to this event includes war crimes trials iemitsu Jun 2014 #1
Most of those are the same lessons from Vietnam Warpy Jun 2014 #2
Yep.... Recommend KoKo Jun 2014 #3

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
1. I hope the end to this event includes war crimes trials
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:18 PM
Jun 2014

for both Bush and Cheney.
Without that sort of cleansing the US can never move forward to become the land that we promote in our advertizing.

Warpy

(111,175 posts)
2. Most of those are the same lessons from Vietnam
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jun 2014

and the military didn't learn those, either. It kept promoting dogmatists like Rumsfeld who thought he had a way to win Vietnam with a lighter, faster force (read: cheaper) that would strike hard and go back to base for dinner. He was wrong and over 4000 kids had to die to prove it.

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