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truth2power

(8,219 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:58 AM Jun 2014

"Absolutely Nothing" Warning: Graphic images of people EXPERIENCING war...

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2014/06/16




If loudmouthed, arrogant, flag-waving, "exceptionalist" Americans EVER had to experience, on their own soil, what we have inflicted on human beings in other parts of the world, they would have hanged GWB, Dick Cheney, and their ilk, from lamp-posts long ago for even suggesting invading other countries.

To those who mumble inanities about "what we have fought for", the author, a former Naval intelligence officer, says, "How many lives, how much money, how many years? You look us in the eye and you fucking tell us."



For my own part: What those three children are experiencing is going to screw up the lives of countless others (their children, grandchildren, etc.) for the next one hundred years.

I don't care to say how I know this to be the case.








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"Absolutely Nothing" Warning: Graphic images of people EXPERIENCING war... (Original Post) truth2power Jun 2014 OP
If you are pro war, get a uniform on THIS INSTANT or shut your stupid mouth randys1 Jun 2014 #1
Actually... JayhawkSD Jun 2014 #4
Many are, sadly over the past 20 years or so we have been growing war hungry randys1 Jun 2014 #6
I used to have an army application with me during the run up to war in 2003 ... aggiesal Jun 2014 #10
Thank you for saying this. onecaliberal Jun 2014 #2
I agree. Aristus Jun 2014 #3
Kick grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #5
LOOK at it. K&R n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #7
My greatgrandfather Stryst Jun 2014 #8
Thank you for sharing this. "...and now I'll never be totally right again"... truth2power Jun 2014 #9
My late mother in law and my father in law (still alive) JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #11
enough of this insanity! noiretextatique Jun 2014 #12
... Scuba Jun 2014 #13
I think the US should have either a draft or a war tax. The US goes to war, and except for a very raccoon Jun 2014 #14

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. If you are pro war, get a uniform on THIS INSTANT or shut your stupid mouth
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:02 AM
Jun 2014

it is that fucking simple

Jesus this is a distressing article.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
4. Actually...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

...people who have worn the uniform, myself among them, are almost all anti-war.

I keep being reminded of the Air Force that my father served for 43 years, the slogan of Stragic Air Command. There was a diagonal sky blue stripe across the nose of the B-47s, and later B-52s, with the proud words, "Peace Is Our Profession."

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. Many are, sadly over the past 20 years or so we have been growing war hungry
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jun 2014

assholes of two kinds in America

Kind one is the old fashioned chickenshit chickenhawk, the entire W administration just about, with few exceptions, were all non combat personnel.

Not new but lots of them.

Kind two is the idiot who has played video games all his life, watched movies where the bad guys are always Muslim or non white american, and this gun nut who thinks he is John Wayne even if he is too young to know who that is, joins up so he can kill Muslims.

some of them just get killed or become frightened (for good reason) right off, some of them become killers...

Wow, how fucked up is this world?

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
10. I used to have an army application with me during the run up to war in 2003 ...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 02:19 PM
Jun 2014

whenever anyone would spout their support for war, I would give them the application.
Not 1 person ever signed up, but the look on their faces and the excuses I heard were priceless.

onecaliberal

(32,786 posts)
2. Thank you for saying this.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:06 AM
Jun 2014

If you want war, shut the fuck up, suit up, and take your ass along with your entire family there to fight it. Leave the rest of us alone. It's not okay to cheer for war for other people because you will NEVER suffer the devastation.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
3. I agree.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:19 AM
Jun 2014

Suit up or shut up.

The sooner raging pro-war fuckheads lie dead in the battlefields they wished for, the sooner the rest of us can live in much-deserved peace.

Stryst

(714 posts)
8. My greatgrandfather
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:26 PM
Jun 2014

Was Czech, and the things he experienced during the German invasion never left him. I, on the other hand, served in Iraq, so I guess the lessons didn't stick. Just to pay for collage, I said. There's nothing going on in the world where I'll have to fight, I said...I was wrong, and now I'll never be totally right again.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
9. Thank you for sharing this. "...and now I'll never be totally right again"...
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jun 2014

The emotional baggage has to be considered, doesn't it?

There is not an American alive today who has experienced bombs and bloodletting and white phosphorus weapons and giving birth to monsters because of the depleted uranium - all of it, right here in their own community, on their own street. Real war is only an abstraction to them.

And I fully believe the people like Cheney and GWB and Rummy and others sit somewhere and jag-off to films and pictures of the horror. It's an aphrodisiac to them.


* * *

My mother lived in Ukraine during the Russian Revolution and the civil war that followed. She lost both her parents, within hours of each other, to the typhus epidemic. And that is the smallest part of her story.

She carried severe emotional baggage for the rest of her life that impacted me and my children and those around her. For 100 years.

When I look at that little girl in her mother's arms I think of my mother, and the people who are likely to suffer the consequences of what she experienced for the next hundred years. But no one ever thinks of that.

I curse the people who perpetrate these wars. May they (and that includes Americans) rot in everlasting Hell for all eternity.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
11. My late mother in law and my father in law (still alive)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 03:12 PM
Jun 2014

Were children of World War II (Italy) as well - It does something to children.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
14. I think the US should have either a draft or a war tax. The US goes to war, and except for a very
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:11 AM
Jun 2014

small percentage of the population--servicepersons and their families--they don't have to experience the impact
of the war.

Many Americans slap a "Support our troops" magnet on their SUV or other vehicle and apparently think that means something.







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