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See The Teacher’s Resignation Video That more than 415,000 People Have Already Watched (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 OP
kick for later. eom ellenfl Mar 2013 #1
Amen. raging moderate Mar 2013 #2
Children of the wealthy . . . another_liberal Mar 2013 #15
This. ^^^ CrispyQ Mar 2013 #23
It's so remarkable Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2013 #3
I take water aerobics classes with a lot of retired teachers Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #6
And this is exactly the kind of teachers we need the most. zeemike Mar 2013 #4
Sad. Why the fuck didn't they want him tutoring kids on his own time? SunSeeker Mar 2013 #5
having some familiarity with how bureaucrats think Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #37
Been there wowser Mar 2013 #7
This Is So Sad supercats Mar 2013 #8
quantifying results and systematizing the program seems to be the central theme in this regressive Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #9
What they're following . . . another_liberal Mar 2013 #14
Yes, it is very painful to watch our country going movonne Mar 2013 #22
No Teachers Left at All...the true aim of NCLB legislation. (n/t) Moostache Mar 2013 #10
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2013 #11
George Carlin On Education cantbeserious Mar 2013 #12
And the teacher replacements are not certified teachers. They are corporate business picks. DhhD Mar 2013 #18
K& R As education goes Carolina Mar 2013 #13
The classroom he describes sounds more like a prison.n/t fasttense Mar 2013 #16
And we're STILL clinging Plucketeer Mar 2013 #17
This connects to Chris Hedges description of Neoliberalism here on DU kmlisle Mar 2013 #19
I commend you for continuing your efforts to educate the young people in your community. classof56 Mar 2013 #31
Thank you CHOCOLATMIMOSA Mar 2013 #20
We started serving breakfast in the classroom theaocp Mar 2013 #21
Mr. Stephen Round is the name of this teacher. I think it probably worked out better in terms of Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #24
K and R . thanks for posting....I will repost this k and r.. again and again.. Stuart G Mar 2013 #25
now 376,850 views Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #26
70K a year plus benefits?! WOW! Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #27
which means he might just barely qualify for a mortgage on a house in the community where he works Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #29
He is making four times as much as a Walmart worker, plus benefits Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #30
i'm posting this to facebook. barbtries Mar 2013 #28
So do I, nt. Stuart G Mar 2013 #33
I RETIRED JUNE '09 AND I HAVE HEARD drynberg Mar 2013 #32
This is why so many charter schools are being touted. They are crucified on this board but this give Pisces Mar 2013 #34
The charter school movement was created to destroy teachers unions. Stuart G Mar 2013 #35
I agree, however, a by product has been some charters that are able to do everything that public Pisces Mar 2013 #36
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
15. Children of the wealthy . . .
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:47 AM
Mar 2013

Children of the wealthy are taught economics and Latin in their private prep schools, to prepare them for careers in finance and the legal professions. Children of the working and middle classes are taught how to take standardized tests, to prepare them for careers as wage slaves and prison inmates.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
3. It's so remarkable
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:08 AM
Mar 2013

that current and retired teachers have the same tales to tell. I would have been thrilled to work alongside this gentleman or have my kids in any class he taught. Thanks for posting this.

K&R

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
6. I take water aerobics classes with a lot of retired teachers
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:33 AM
Mar 2013

Some of them took early retirement because they said that the new rules had taken all the enjoyment out of teaching and were actually harmful to some kids.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. And this is exactly the kind of teachers we need the most.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 12:35 AM
Mar 2013

Gone, gone. gone.
the John Birchers are achieving their goal.

SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
5. Sad. Why the fuck didn't they want him tutoring kids on his own time?
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:09 AM
Mar 2013

The parents wanted it, the kid wanted it, and it was not costing the school any money. That seemed to have been the last straw for this teacher. Such a tragedy for the kids this decent man could be helping.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
37. having some familiarity with how bureaucrats think
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 09:23 PM
Mar 2013

I'm sure they the "educrats" would consider it an issue of legal liability as well as something that falls outside the zone of their system of measurements

wowser

(6 posts)
7. Been there
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:40 AM
Mar 2013

I have recently retired here in Arizona for similar reasons. Public schools no longer educate citizens. They have become profit centers for test publishers and propaganda mills for so-called conservative values. Teachers and students are being bullied and crushed.

 

supercats

(429 posts)
8. This Is So Sad
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:50 AM
Mar 2013

What this teacher has had to experience seems to be a part of the regressive shifts this country is embracing in many other ways from the lack of sensible gun laws, to the stolen voting rights and elections, to the entire militarization of our nation, etc, etc, etc. Our country appears to be in a free fall, and it is truly painful to witness.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
9. quantifying results and systematizing the program seems to be the central theme in this regressive
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:00 AM
Mar 2013

approach to education and a lot of other things. No doubt the educrats -as this teacher calls them - would think they are following an evidenced based approach to education. They write the criteria whereby their testing proves that their testing is working.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
14. What they're following . . .
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:38 AM
Mar 2013

What they're following are the kickbacks they get from the huge corporations which sell school districts millions of dollars worth of standardized tests and test preparation materials. And don't forget that George W. Bush's younger brother being an important executive at one such corporation was a big reason for instituting NCLB in the first place.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
18. And the teacher replacements are not certified teachers. They are corporate business picks.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:40 AM
Mar 2013

So the community decides to accept this teacher's resignation and the loss of their children's education instead of hiring the appropriate support educators at the upper administration level. Apparently the community needs to scrutinize the school board members before the election along with the contracted administrative support staff. How many parent curriculum committees are set up?

Could people read a book on the sociology of education? No, blame and destroy a teacher (and your child) instead. Let education program profiteers do the preparing for you.

Finally, disease, war and war politics (like we have today), reduces an ignorant population just like in the early history of the world.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
13. K& R As education goes
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:47 AM
Mar 2013

so goes a "free" nation or any nation for that matter.

How sad to be a child in the educational milieu this teacher describes.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
17. And we're STILL clinging
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:11 AM
Mar 2013

to the demonstorably flawed NCLB and the non-classroom tempered Arne Dunce'n. Yeah, cause like non-stop warring and the growing surveillance state, and activist judges on the SCOTUS - everything ol' W gave is works so damned good!

kmlisle

(276 posts)
19. This connects to Chris Hedges description of Neoliberalism here on DU
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:48 AM
Mar 2013

The new world order (which Hedges describes as Plutocratic feudalism) is the direction we are headed and of course the plutocrats want our children to be prepared to: ask no questions, follow all rules and essentially behave as though they were widgets produced on the factory floor we used to call a classroom. I am retired and could have worked a few more years but the testing was slowly taking over my classroom and draining all the fun and color and opportunity for a true education instead of training to pass a test. So I retired and looking back I and the children I taught were like a frogs in water being slowly brought to a boil as everything that I valued and they enjoyed about education was slowly being removed from my classroom, year by year, test by test.
Best of luck to you Mr Carpenter. The first year is the hardest when you will miss your students and colleagues and the school community if you were in a good one like I was. I highly recommend trying to find a volunteer position where you can still work with children. That has been a good move for me - working with my church youth group and some community tutoring groups as well.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
31. I commend you for continuing your efforts to educate the young people in your community.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:32 PM
Mar 2013

I know many former teachers, for just the reasons you describe. One current teacher describes her job as "training dancing monkeys". What a sad commentary on the work done by dedicated, concerned educators such as you. Bless you for caring!

theaocp

(4,232 posts)
21. We started serving breakfast in the classroom
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:33 PM
Mar 2013

this year. It's an utter fallacy that the kids will be doing any kind of "work" during this feasting period. I take attendance, lunch count, and socialize with my class to a certain degree while they eat. I'm glad this poor man saw the morning breakfast period for what it should have been: a socializing period that actually *helps* the kids concentrate throughout the day. I stopped using recess as a bargaining chip for behavior problems not long ago, since it didn't change anything and kids need to get that energy out. There is one exception: poor behavior ON the playground. Then, they lose the privilege, but it is directly linked to the behavior in that environment.

As an aside, I don't know the living standards where he lives, but DAMN he made a lot more annually than I do. Granted, he's been working since 1999, but I make almost half that and I've been teaching since 2006. I wouldn't be surprised if they wouldn't let him tutor on his own time so he'd become despondent and quit, thus saving them money on a new teacher's salary. The education world these days makes me very cynical.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
24. Mr. Stephen Round is the name of this teacher. I think it probably worked out better in terms of
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

getting his message out than if he had been allowed to read his resignation letter to the Providence, Rhode Island School Board.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
25. K and R . thanks for posting....I will repost this k and r.. again and again..
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 05:15 PM
Mar 2013

Thank goodness I did not have those restrictions..taught high school for over 25 years..history..tried so many unusual odd things, that...the kids ...adults..remember them...15 years after I left..like the day we took a field trip outside the class.
......we walked outside to the park sorrounding the school...and hugged trees..yes we did..gorgeous fall day..perfect weather..inredible color..so that is what we did...some students understood, and some thought I was nuts...so what??

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
29. which means he might just barely qualify for a mortgage on a house in the community where he works
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:32 PM
Mar 2013

if he is lucky - This is an older teacher with several years of experience. Still even that he is willing to give up rather than put up with what is being force on teachers all over the country.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
30. He is making four times as much as a Walmart worker, plus benefits
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:42 PM
Mar 2013

That puts him into the top 10% or so. He's wealthy enough that he can afford to quit and even offer his services for free.

In any case, I think this guy is pretty cool for taking a stand like this.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
32. I RETIRED JUNE '09 AND I HAVE HEARD
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:49 PM
Mar 2013

Much the same from "surviving" teachers back in my school, I mean I haven't even asked them about school, they just blurt it out in pain and distress. In my 30 years I was very lucky and so were my students, but now...Oh baby, some big changes gotta happen' very soon. I fear they won't. Thank you Douglas for a great letter, may it be heard by millions and make a difference.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
34. This is why so many charter schools are being touted. They are crucified on this board but this give
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:17 PM
Mar 2013

kids with limited income a better education. The charter school in my area still go on field trips, celebrate birthdays and have
parties. One size teaching does not fit all. I wish there was more support for people who are trying to make a difference.

I am not saying all charters are good, but I think the notion that they are all bad is equally as damaging.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
35. The charter school movement was created to destroy teachers unions.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 04:32 PM
Mar 2013

That is awful, terrible, and against everything we stand for here.
Most, higher inexperienced cheaper staff. enuf

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
36. I agree, however, a by product has been some charters that are able to do everything that public
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 08:01 PM
Mar 2013

schools can no longer provide. They can have their own curriculums and they can allow for different time off and celebrations.
No half days ( which parents hate), holidays coinciding with teacher planning days to give parents a 4 day holiday. Pets in classrooms, with tortoises and chickens that the entire school gets to enjoy and learn how to care for these animals.

Field trips and extra help for those in need. Sound too good to be true. No it exists, and unfortunately it is a charter school that
provides it.

Many parents that have experienced a good charter ( who are democrats) can not rail against them as they are providing
the education kids need. Unlike the local public school which no longer has a PE teacher. These things matter and while I support the unions, I support my kids more. They go to the school that is going to provide the best education that my money can not buy.



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