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Doctor Shows Video Describing How Bullets Explode inside Body in front of Senate Judiciary Committee (Original Post) FourScore Mar 2013 OP
And all I can think is... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1
Scaring some sense into them may be all we have left. Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #2
The exact same bullets are also used in regular firearms with similar results ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #3
Another death expert, gee thanks. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #16
You are quite welcome. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #17
Ballistics gel, not a body Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #4
All bullets do that type of damage? Are you sure? Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #5
I stand corrected Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #8
Imagining any bullets fired by an assault weapon into the flesh of those little bodies pacalo Mar 2013 #7
any weapon Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #9
there will be no gun control in the usa until RedstDem Mar 2013 #6
WOW... geologic Mar 2013 #10
I'm way crazyer than Beck RedstDem Mar 2013 #15
Actually, much worse... geologic Mar 2013 #11
Okay, since this is "video and multimedia" an' all-- geologic Mar 2013 #12
The USA already has substantive gun control ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #14
For the sake of accuracy Nitram Mar 2013 #13

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,517 posts)
1. And all I can think is...
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:48 PM
Mar 2013

Shame on anyone who will not stop these types of assault weapons from being available to the public.

I really cannot express how sick the video made me.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. The exact same bullets are also used in regular firearms with similar results
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:10 PM
Mar 2013

While "assault weapons" are a made up term, even "non-assault weapons" fire the exact same bullets with the same results.

Military rounds (FMJ) do not "explode" when they hit flesh. Claims that they do are total bullshit. Hunting rounds open up, and that is required by law.

Does anybody know if Lanza used hunting or military rounds?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. Ballistics gel, not a body
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:11 PM
Mar 2013

All bullets do that type of damage. What type of bullet was he using? I would assume not FMJ as they do not explode. Does not matter what type of rifle it is either. A bolt action will cause that and also all of the semi-auto types that the senator does not ban since they have no pistol grip.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
5. All bullets do that type of damage? Are you sure?
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:32 PM
Mar 2013

Because my understanding is that Dum Dum bullets were developed because the predecessor bullets, the Cartridge S.A. Ball, Magazine Rifle Cordite Mark I’, later to become the ‘Mark II’, was disliked because it tended to go through the enemy cleanly with hardly any damage. During the opening skirmishes in the Chitral expedition in India rumors started to spread of tribesmen who were still able to
fight even after they had been hit by several bullets.

http://pfoa.co.uk/uploads/asset_file/Dum-Dum%20Bullets_1.pdf

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
8. I stand corrected
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:48 PM
Mar 2013

That was not what I meant and yes that is also why I was asking about the bullet type. Military ammo will not expand or explode as far as I know due to laws of war. Hunting rounds and self defense rounds typically expand to do more damage to stop a person or keep the animal from suffering.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
7. Imagining any bullets fired by an assault weapon into the flesh of those little bodies
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:47 PM
Mar 2013

is sufficiently horrifying to me.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
9. any weapon
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:50 PM
Mar 2013

does not matter if it is a so called assault weapon. Handgun, shotgun .................

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
6. there will be no gun control in the usa until
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:46 PM
Mar 2013

someone shoots up a favorite drinking hole of the congress-critters, or a NASCAR race, or some such thing where lots of RW's lose their lives, unfortunately.

they cannot relate to anything until it happens to them.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
15. I'm way crazyer than Beck
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 10:19 AM
Mar 2013

i consider RW's traitors to the USA, and you know what happens to traitors.

 

geologic

(205 posts)
11. Actually, much worse...
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:36 PM
Mar 2013

Beck singles out individuals for, ah,
"attention"--
you be into the mass-type-stuff...

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
13. For the sake of accuracy
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 08:54 AM
Mar 2013

I think it should be pointed out that there is no "assault rifle" bullet. The ballistic round shown in the video is mainly used by hunters of small targets such as ground hogs to make sure they kill the animal (and not just wound it). It "explodes" on contact. Hunters of larger game such as deer use a bullet that mushrooms, increasing damage but also allowing deeper penetration. The military uses bullets that tumble on penetration, increasing damage but not disintegrating.

I mention this because if you want to be persuasive with reasonable gun owners, you have to be accurate in your discussion of the issues. The doctor here makes a very good point about what happens when multiple bullets strike a child, but loses credibility with knowledgeable people when he suggests that the Sandy Hook shooter used "assault rifle type bullets". The point is made far more effectively if it is factual.

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