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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:08 AM Jun 2014

See what the Germans are doing with clean renewable solar power



greenenergy336·Uploaded on Mar 12, 2010

Germany is serious about clean renewable energy(solar power) in private homes as well as in industries. Shouldn't we be doing more? http://tinyurl.com/greendiyenergy101


- This video was posted four years ago. Now Germany has so much surplus power (they quadrupled it) they have to sell it to neighboring countries in order to keep the fossil and nuke electricity producers from losing their entire financial base.

Isn't evolving exciting?


Renewable Energy Incentives
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See what the Germans are doing with clean renewable solar power (Original Post) DeSwiss Jun 2014 OP
.... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #1
And Germany is not well-known as a Sunny Clim packman Jun 2014 #2
I beg to differ! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #3
Meanwhile..... AlbertCat Jun 2014 #4
Our children subsidize our energy. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #5
I hesitate to say this out loud, but -- they have an advantage. byronius Jun 2014 #6
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
1. ....
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:05 AM
Jun 2014
[font size=3]Germany Quadruples Energy Surplus Over the Last Two Years[/font]
by Morgana Matus, 04/09/13




For a country phasing out its nuclear plants, you might expect a downturn in energy production. But Germany has actually seen its power output quadruple between 2011 and 2012. Europe’s leading economy has been pushing for a green revolution, becoming one of the largest markets for solar voltaics and where support for renewables is subsidized by taxpayers.

The country’s Federal Statistics Office reported a surplus of 22.8 billion kilowatt hours over the last two years. The government has set a goal to source 80 percent of its electricity from green technology by 2050, leaving the old fossil fuel-based utilities behind. Holland, Austria and Switzerland were the country’s main customers for the extra energy.

Read more: Germany Quadruples Energy Surplus Over the Last Two Years
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
2. And Germany is not well-known as a Sunny Clim
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jun 2014

Germany is not, if one looks at a map of solar irradiation, the most ideal place for this. While the U.S. lies further south and SHOULD BE on the forefront of this. Shows what national will (which the Germans have a history of ) and a concerted effort can achieve. Fossil fuels - to stretch a metaphor - will be gasping to survive in the decades to come.


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Sorry for the minuscule map, basically shows the most ideal places for solar energy placement. Australia has a whole continent to work with and when the oil runs out of the Middle East, they can go to exporting solar to the world .


http://www.globalskm.com/Insights/Achieve-Articles/Items/2010/The-outlook-for-solar-energy-technologies.aspx

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
3. I beg to differ!
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jun 2014

[center]''Fossil fuels will be gasping to survive in the decades to come.''[/center]

....is the perfect metaphor!

- With smaller chips sets and modularization, we could have done this years ago.







But of course if we go in this directions, we'll have to leave some things behind.....

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
4. Meanwhile.....
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jun 2014

...... this "superpower" we live in can't even get a bullet train from DC to NYC built.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. Our children subsidize our energy.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jun 2014

There is no excuse for the use of any energy other than solar energy during daylight hours in Los Angeles. Do you know how long it has been since we had a day cloudy or rainy enough to threaten a steady stream of solar energy? It's been a long time.

Yet solar energy is not subsidized enough here to make it possible for a couple of retired people like my husband and me to put solar panels on our house and feed extra energy into the grid. They are doing it in Germany. Why aren't we giving incentives for more solar power here?

Because certain economic and political special interest groups don't want the competition.

Fact is we have cheap oil now, but the message in the video is true: our children will pay high prices for energy because we are wasting oil and gas, gobbling it up when we don't need to, now.

My husband and I don't use much energy. We don't have a family or a business that uses it. We could produce energy and send it to the grid. But we need to have a way to sell the extra energy to those who could use it. Our current system does not provide that. We need financial incentives for solar panel energy production in the US.



byronius

(7,391 posts)
6. I hesitate to say this out loud, but -- they have an advantage.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jun 2014

Most of their Tea Party either perished in the front lines or fled to Venezuela and Argentina.

We, by contrast, must still carry these monkeys on our backs.

Is that wrong to say? I believe it is historically accurate.

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