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Thom Hartmann: The Dark Money that Beat Eric Cantor (Original Post) thomhartmann Jun 2014 OP
That was really informative! nt Quixote1818 Jun 2014 #1
K/R Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #2
Thanks Thom safeinOhio Jun 2014 #3
Kickski Snarkoleptic Jun 2014 #4
Wow! Yet Another Angle, Another Reason panfluteman Jun 2014 #5
Handpicked by the Koch brothers.. sounds about right. mountain grammy Jun 2014 #6
This is the danger ctsnowman Jun 2014 #7
Now the Cantor loss makes sense. . . . . citizen blues Jun 2014 #8

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
5. Wow! Yet Another Angle, Another Reason
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 12:06 AM
Jun 2014

why Dave Brat beat Eric Cantor. Of all the analyses I have heard, it is the most thought provoking - and troubling. In other words, the Kochs and the dark money people are refining their game and their tactics with each race that they test their newfound Citizens United powers in. You might call it political stealth technology, I suppose. It was a real eye opener to hear that Dave Brat wasn't the lone wolf underdog populist that most of the political pundits are making him out to be. Good job, Thom, in bringing us this new and insightful perspective! There seem to be so many multilayered complexities in this race - peel off one, and you find another...

ctsnowman

(1,903 posts)
7. This is the danger
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 06:14 AM
Jun 2014

of calling the lunatic fringe of the Republican party the "Tea party". They sound like a whole new brand when in fact they are nothing but the most extreme members of the cons who are dragging the Republicans over the edge. Half these dimwits think the government is coming for their guns and going to put them in FEMA camps, not to mention "Chemtrails".

citizen blues

(570 posts)
8. Now the Cantor loss makes sense. . . . .
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jun 2014

My gut feeling was that there was more to the story of Cantor's defeat than what we had heard. I'm really glad Thom pointed out the dark money behind Bratt.

Getting money out of politics is the only answer. With state after state passing the amendment that says "Corporations are not people, money is not free speech," we are getting closer and closer to the magic number of 38 which is need for the amendment to become part of our constitution. However, many of the groups working towards passing this amendment are also pushing for a new constitutional convention.

The last time we came close to a constitutional convention was over the issue of Senators being appointees of the Governors instead of elected. As the country came closer and closer to having enough states, the House and Senate got more and more scared about a rewriting of the constitution becoming a reality. As a result, they went ahead and passed the amendment to avoid a constitutional convention.

This time around, it's different. First, I don't think many in Washington are smart enough to read the writing on the wall when it comes to a the very real possibility of a constitutional convention. They are far too entrenched in their own ideologies and pacifying their big money backers. Second, if it did go to a constitutional convention, I don't think the U.S. would survive as a nation, which may be exactly what some of the big money backers are aiming for.

Citizens United may very well go down in the history books as the most insidious form of sedition the U.S. ever faced. Whether or not we survive it has yet to be seen. Future generations may well wonder why the justices who supported that decision weren't impeached and put on trial. The reason they weren't is because the same billionaires who bought those justices, had also bought many in the House and Senate.

If we are to preserve the United States of America, we need to pass the amendment to end corporate personhood and stop equating money with free speech. We need to do cleanly, without a constitutional convention. If it goes to a constitutional convention, the U.S. will most likely disintegrate and we will be looking at another Civil War. With today's mass weapons owned by the military and extremists alike, it could very well make the last Civil War look like a skirmish.

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