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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 06:24 PM Jun 2014

[b]CrossTalk: Game of Hawks[/b]--Fantastic Disussion, and...Check out the Affiliations of Guests


Truly Interesting and Progressive DU'ers will find it particularly interesting given the opposing sides in a REAL DISCUSSION outside the MSM.


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[b]CrossTalk: Game of Hawks[/b]--Fantastic Disussion, and...Check out the Affiliations of Guests (Original Post) KoKo Jun 2014 OP
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Do you have something to add . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #7
Thanks for posting this. What a great topic. PoliticalPothead Jun 2014 #2
The "Heritage Foundation" spokesperson was particularly "interesting" ...I thought...... KoKo Jun 2014 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #4
Peter Lavelle is one of the most engaging and informative interviewers I've ever seen....... KoKo Jun 2014 #5
I thought it was interesting knowing that he had a hidden agenda - HF newthinking Jun 2014 #16
The Heritage Foundation is a well known swilton Jun 2014 #19
Great CrossTalk episode . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #6
The dude's still making fun of the ACA website....LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #9
I didn't say I wanted to live with him, alright? another_liberal Jun 2014 #12
LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #13
Seriously though . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #15
The host with an Obamacare website joke? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #8
Maybe you don't like Wonky/Sophisticated Discussion......? KoKo Jun 2014 #10
So ACA website jokes equal "wonky/sophisticated discussion"? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #11
Remember...It's in the Eye of the Beholder...and I have as much right to be here KoKo Jun 2014 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #18
If I recall correctly... PoliticalPothead Jun 2014 #17
Great discussion of US foreign policy swilton Jun 2014 #20
It was an interesting discussion and i thought the give-and-take was quite good rpannier Jun 2014 #21

Response to KoKo (Original post)

PoliticalPothead

(220 posts)
2. Thanks for posting this. What a great topic.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:09 PM
Jun 2014

There really doesn't seem to be much difference between the mainstream Democratic and Republican Parties when it comes to foreign policy. The MIC have invested in both sides and pretty much stopped any sort of meaningful debate among our elected officials over America's military presence in the rest of the world.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. The "Heritage Foundation" spokesperson was particularly "interesting" ...I thought......
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jun 2014

Just saying about what is the difference when it all comes down to it.....

BTW...thought Peter Lavelle did excellent job Moderating this.

Response to KoKo (Reply #3)

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. Peter Lavelle is one of the most engaging and informative interviewers I've ever seen.......
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jun 2014

It's truly worth the watch.

You won't see on Faux News/CNN/MSNBC/PBS/C-Span/Sunday Talk Shows or in the Dead Tree Newspapers.

It's WONDERFUL..... TRUTH TO POWER!

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
16. I thought it was interesting knowing that he had a hidden agenda - HF
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 09:32 PM
Jun 2014

is a semi-neocon operation (dispite his dishonesty alluding to the opposite). The previous President, Yushenko's (remember the "orange revolution"?) wife was an American who worked for Reagan and later for Heritage. The US has had it's hands in Ukraine since well before the junta came to power.

I think Levell got neoconned on this . He acts like he did not know about the Heritage's roll in Ukraine. The heritage scum is an expert. He knew exactly what he wanted to do, in this case use the opportunity to look himself like a bit of a hawk, while at the same time giving out the republican talking points.

The other guest was the only one (of the two) who was being transparent and honest.

Always an interesting show though.



 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
19. The Heritage Foundation is a well known
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jun 2014

conservative Washington DC think tank - " public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense" ...No doves among its staff. "

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
6. Great CrossTalk episode . . .
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jun 2014

How refreshing it is to find a media host who not only has pertinent comments of his own but also knows how to shut up and let his guests talk!

Thank you for posting this video.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
9. The dude's still making fun of the ACA website....LOL
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:27 PM
Jun 2014

And you think he's great? December of 2013 called, it's right wing talking point is dead.

Maybe "news" travels slow in Putinland.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. I didn't say I wanted to live with him, alright?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:36 PM
Jun 2014

If you demand ideological perfection from your media hosts, who must only watch Cronkite reruns.

I like this hosts handling of the subject of excessive American diplomatic hawkishness. It is the kind of discussion one will not find anywhere on the major US media. When he is slaming the Affordable Care Act, I won't be listening.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
13. LOL
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:38 PM
Jun 2014

He must be a stopped clock then. You should tune in to FAUX, maybe BillO and Sean agree with you and you can champion their vids here too!

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
15. Seriously though . . .
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:43 PM
Jun 2014

There is really no comparing FOX News to RT. One, despite what one might think of its slant on a given story, is a real news network. The other is a collection of buffoons, dimwits and wing nuts.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. Maybe you don't like Wonky/Sophisticated Discussion......?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:30 PM
Jun 2014

I realize many prefer the pre-packaged MSM from Faux/CNN/Networks/MSNBC Homoginized rhetoric.

But we "Politcal Junkies" just LOVE our INTERNATIONAL NEWS...for Propaganda Balance.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
11. So ACA website jokes equal "wonky/sophisticated discussion"?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:33 PM
Jun 2014

What's next, Michelle Obama "should stop telling me what to eat" rants?

Just in case you're "wonky sophisticated news sources" didn't get it....the ACA website is doing just fine as is Obamacare. Sorry!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. Remember...It's in the Eye of the Beholder...and I have as much right to be here
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:41 PM
Jun 2014

as You Do...

It's about DISCUSSION........

Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #11)

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
20. Great discussion of US foreign policy
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:59 PM
Jun 2014

with diverse perspectives....I will not give them labels for political parties as these are no longer relevant. As Lavelle notes, inside the beltway politicos are all hawks....But as I see the right-left spectrum - the representative from the Heritage Foundation was reactionary - Walter critiqued from a progressive/far left perspective and the man with the capital in the background represented the neo-liberal position and defended Obama.....

Overall just excellent; could have listened to this kind of debate all evening.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
21. It was an interesting discussion and i thought the give-and-take was quite good
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:53 AM
Jun 2014

I like the style that Lavelle uses by letting people talk
And, at least in this one, he seems to have avoided the nodding and shaking head that he often does when he agrees or disagrees with what someone says

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