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EarlG

(21,929 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:04 PM Jun 2014

Pic Of The Moment: Mainstream Media Turns To "Experts" For Commentary On Iraq Situation



The People Who Broke Iraq Have A Lot of Ideas About Fixing It Now

Sunday Shows Turn To Discredited Iraq War Architects For Iraq Analysis



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Pic Of The Moment: Mainstream Media Turns To "Experts" For Commentary On Iraq Situation (Original Post) EarlG Jun 2014 OP
experts enid602 Jun 2014 #1
They should be in jail Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #48
Why aren't they? That's why... JackRiddler Jun 2014 #52
Amen! n/t markpkessinger Jun 2014 #56
Maybe they are the team Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #58
Fuck every last one of 'em Blue Owl Jun 2014 #2
they keep doing this and Minstry the band will release another album PatrynXX Jun 2014 #10
Amen to that! LOL eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2014 #31
Wingtip-wearing corporate media CEOs should be dressed in orange jumpsuits right along with this aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #3
Welcome back front page pics... TRoN33 Jun 2014 #4
It really makes you wonder doesn't it? How could they go to some many demonstrably flawed sources jimlup Jun 2014 #5
they are the real deserters riverwalker Jun 2014 #6
Why is anyone still watching mainstream television? JDPriestly Jun 2014 #7
What a parade of losers! MADem Jun 2014 #8
+1 I posted this downthread but thought you might like it. lol Cha Jun 2014 #43
I'd forgotten about Doug Feith underpants Jun 2014 #9
How could you forget him? gvstn Jun 2014 #16
I saw his picture but couldn't remember his name underpants Jun 2014 #18
I didn't remember his name either. gvstn Jun 2014 #20
Yeah right? They certainly have all answers to EVERYTHING, all the time. closeupready Jun 2014 #11
This is what happens when we look forward montanacowboy Jun 2014 #12
Pathetic clown war posse ...and this shit passes for leadership. American idiots! L0oniX Jun 2014 #13
The problems we have in Iraq were entirely predictable. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #14
same thing happened to the "Latin America desk" at the State Department 1981 MisterP Jun 2014 #25
They can part of their solution Scalded Nun Jun 2014 #15
No kidding!!! These are the leaders of the "YOU FIRST" Club! calimary Jun 2014 #17
Lying ASSHOLES! SoapBox Jun 2014 #19
They should be in prison or shamed into silence ... Martin Eden Jun 2014 #21
The only cameras and TVs sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #22
Only people who blindly The Wizard Jun 2014 #23
Yep, fighting us over here like they promised. chknltl Jun 2014 #24
other than MCCain did any of them serve in the military? ALBliberal Jun 2014 #26
too bad we can't hear from him...wasn't he the one that got caught up in a sex scandal? CTyankee Jun 2014 #32
ya sex scandal disqulifies Petraeus from military expertise ALBliberal Jun 2014 #49
Evidently, he is doing pretty well in early retirement...I Googled him and he's working for CTyankee Jun 2014 #54
One word to Paul Bremer:"De Ba'athification" aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #27
The Ba'ath Party was moved to the playing cards of those wanted by the Bush Administration. DhhD Jun 2014 #30
The media had coverage every time a Sunni was killed or captured. The media know that the DhhD Jun 2014 #33
So effing gross. While they are at it, how about all the missing money. WCLinolVir Jun 2014 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #29
Welcome back! DoBotherMe Jun 2014 #34
If any of these guys had drunkenly crashed their car into a ditch, the MSM would KurtNYC Jun 2014 #35
Wait! I found the WMDs! AngryDem001 Jun 2014 #36
Finally kokobell616 Jun 2014 #37
Why? kentuck Jun 2014 #38
"Experts" weapons of miss information. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2014 #39
If they want war so much Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #40
Welcome Back Earl hibbing Jun 2014 #41
Welcome back EarlG.. and thank you! Today's Serenity Prayer.. Cha Jun 2014 #42
Who is Obama turning to? Hopefully not Kissinger...... again:( grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #44
Lying fascist pigs santamargarita Jun 2014 #45
Still WORLD CLASS CHICKENSHITS .... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #46
Makes me want to throw things KauaiK Jun 2014 #47
What a tangled cobweb they weave, when they practice to deceive blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #50
Paul Bremer will be the first morning guest on CSPAN today. No Vested Interest Jun 2014 #51
WMD's Scarsdale Jun 2014 #53
Alien about to bust out Billy Budd Jun 2014 #55
K&R DesertRat Jun 2014 #57
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
52. Why aren't they? That's why...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:08 AM
Jun 2014

we have the present problem.

It's a completely predictable consequence of "looking forward." Obama began by leaving the cabal of war criminals untouched, so that they could return to this moment and urge a new war of aggression.

There can be no progress without justice, and that includes punishing the world's worst and most dangerous criminals - Cheney, Blair, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, et al.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
10. they keep doing this and Minstry the band will release another album
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:09 PM
Jun 2014

Ministry's only reason for being around is if the name BUSH comes up

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so keep it coming remind the people why they voted for Obama in droves... in 2008

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
3. Wingtip-wearing corporate media CEOs should be dressed in orange jumpsuits right along with this
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jun 2014

bloodthirsty excrement. They should be interviewing each other from behind bars.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
4. Welcome back front page pics...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jun 2014

These so called experts will always be around until their heartbeat stops, if Dick Cheney have one.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
5. It really makes you wonder doesn't it? How could they go to some many demonstrably flawed sources
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jun 2014

and not even recognize that they are doing that? It shows their stellar indoctrination to neoconservative assumptions doesn't it?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
7. Why is anyone still watching mainstream television?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:39 PM
Jun 2014

Do they tell you the truth? Rarely.

Are they warmongers and worriers? Yes.

Do they mostly support Republicans? Yes.

Do they invite university professors and others who might be a bit objective and still knowledgeable to explain things to us? Rarely.

Do they hold in depth conversations with anyone who isn't a politician? Almost never.

Are they owned by huge corporations that only want your money? Yes.

Why are you watching that nonsense.

Watch internet TV stations. Watch C-Span. Listen to Pacifica Radio.

Shut off cable news. It's worthless.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. What a parade of losers!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 12:51 PM
Jun 2014

Glad you're back on the job, EarlG! There's lotsa news to skewer these days....

Cha

(296,671 posts)
43. +1 I posted this downthread but thought you might like it. lol
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:33 PM
Jun 2014

pourmecoffee ✔ @pourmecoffee
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Today's Serenity Prayer
God grant me the serenity to accept Bush neocons opining on Iraq and the wisdom not to shatter my TV.
Amen.

2:19 AM - 17 Jun 2014
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TOD

underpants

(182,545 posts)
18. I saw his picture but couldn't remember his name
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jun 2014

As soon as I saw it all his lying and dumbassedness reprocessed in my brain.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
20. I didn't remember his name either.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

I had just googled him the other day to remind myself of his name and to take note of when he appears on teevee. I don't think he has resurfaced yet.

montanacowboy

(6,076 posts)
12. This is what happens when we look forward
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jun 2014

had these criminals faced justice for their war crimes this never would be happening, these fuckers would be in jail.

this will never end, the media loves it and they are banging their drums so hard it is deafening. So until they are brought up on charges nothing will change and we will be in never ending wars. We should NOT be surprised.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. The problems we have in Iraq were entirely predictable.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:27 PM
Jun 2014

As a matter of fact many of us predicted these very problems before the invasion.

If we non-experts could have predicted these problems why couldn't the experts?

Obviously they did foresee these very problems of religious strife. But they also knew they would be out of office by then and the likely Democratic president would make a convenient fall guy. Nothing escapes the attention of these billion dollar operational task forces.

Imagine they are sitting around the table before the invasion. Someone brings up concerns about the religious question that could develop in post invasion Iraq. He is shouted down by one of bullies in the room (Cheney/Rumsfeld). Cheney might say something like this, "We will have adequate forces remaining in country to take care of any contingency."

Ever hear the old refrain, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
25. same thing happened to the "Latin America desk" at the State Department 1981
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jun 2014

people with regional expertise were replaced by hardline, close-helmed ideologues (the Cheneyesque Shultz was in fact the "pragmatist&quot

Scalded Nun

(1,234 posts)
15. They can part of their solution
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

Give every one of these fucking bastards a gun and drop them into Iraq. They can then set about fixing anything they want.

As a bonus, do the same for every asshole that wants to parade them in front of a camera.

They should all be in jail anyway, traitorous fucks that they are.

calimary

(81,040 posts)
17. No kidding!!! These are the leaders of the "YOU FIRST" Club!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:29 PM - Edit history (1)

YOU FIRST, cheney. YOU FIRST, dougie. YOU FIRST, wolfie. YOU FIRST, bill kristol! YOU FIRST, ari-baby! YOU FIRST, paulie. YOU FIRST, tony-boy! YOU FIRST, johnnie ol' pal! ESPECIALLY YOU, john mccain. Because unlike the rest of these poseurs, YOU actually have seen war close up. You of all people should know better!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
19. Lying ASSHOLES!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jun 2014

Criminals that cost American lives, untold foreign lives and trillions of dollars.

Makes...My...Blood...Boil...when they show their faces.

Martin Eden

(12,838 posts)
21. They should be in prison or shamed into silence ...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:54 PM
Jun 2014

... not put in front of cameras, treated like respected experts, and asked for advice.
Tell me again about the liberal media!

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
22. The only cameras and TVs
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jun 2014

these war criminals should be on are the closet circuit cameras and televisions in the guard room of a federal prison.

The Wizard

(12,526 posts)
23. Only people who blindly
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:03 PM
Jun 2014

vote Republican pay any attention to these dingle berries. Our media has sunk to a new low.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
24. Yep, fighting us over here like they promised.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jun 2014

I'm more scared of my fellow Americans who feared impeachment. Please note that i did not say which of my fellow Americans because when it came to desiring impeachment hearings and the accompanied media coverage We The People presented a fairly substantial front saying it was not our will. This front was entirely bipartisan and now the world knows that We The People hold no interest in learning the truth when it comes to those we elect. THAT more than anything else makes me ashamed of my country. The world watched as those pictured here pillaged this planet and the single most important democracy on that planet said, "Nah, nothing to see here move along please, move along"

ALBliberal

(2,333 posts)
26. other than MCCain did any of them serve in the military?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:01 PM
Jun 2014

I wonder what Petraeus is thinking right about now

ALBliberal

(2,333 posts)
49. ya sex scandal disqulifies Petraeus from military expertise
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:17 AM
Jun 2014

Republicans sweep him under the rug but trot out these idiots who got it all wrong causing death estruction endless debt Republicans and their upside down sense of morality (Petraeus probably no more innocent but at least he was there on the ground so to speak)

CTyankee

(63,880 posts)
54. Evidently, he is doing pretty well in early retirement...I Googled him and he's working for
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:46 AM
Jun 2014

some big outfit...so he's got his military retirement bennies and a big, fat salary...I'm not going to be too sad for him...

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
27. One word to Paul Bremer:"De Ba'athification"
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:09 PM
Jun 2014

The policy was conceived by Wolfowitz, Feith, and Chalabi and implemented by Bremer. It sought to purge from any government service all previous members of the Ba'ath party, including the military and the civilian people who made Iraq work. It caused nothing but chaos and let the Shiites and Iranians move into the picture. Now Paul Bremer, one of the biggest bald-faced liars I've ever seen claims his policy was a success and that Obama is to blame for the problems in Iraq.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
30. The Ba'ath Party was moved to the playing cards of those wanted by the Bush Administration.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jun 2014
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most-wanted_Iraqi_playing_cards

The Personality Identification Playing Cards, to be more precise.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
33. The media had coverage every time a Sunni was killed or captured. The media know that the
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:01 PM
Jun 2014

militants in Iraq now are the young Sunnis who were driven out of the country by the Shiite army, Iraqi President, and Shia favored US Military Policy under Bush Administration. They are coming back to Iraq with a vengeance, but are they killing their Sunni neighbors or the Shia?

Maliki has refused to provide a politically stable atmosphere in Iraq.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
35. If any of these guys had drunkenly crashed their car into a ditch, the MSM would
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jun 2014

want to let them (drunkenly) drive the tow truck as well.

Insanity.

kentuck

(111,035 posts)
38. Why?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jun 2014

Because they were a big part in selling the lies. To affix blame on others would affix blame on themselves. So they continue to give them credibility, pretending that they also have credibility.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,646 posts)
40. If they want war so much
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jun 2014

Let's give everyone of them a one way ticket to Iraq. When they've driven off ISIS they can return home.

hibbing

(10,089 posts)
41. Welcome Back Earl
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jun 2014

All these immoral assholes and their corporate compliant cohorts in the media can all go to hell. To quote a little song I like, "all the money you made will never buy back your soul".

Peace

Cha

(296,671 posts)
42. Welcome back EarlG.. and thank you! Today's Serenity Prayer..
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:31 PM
Jun 2014

pourmecoffee ✔ @pourmecoffee
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Today's Serenity Prayer
God grant me the serenity to accept Bush neocons opining on Iraq and the wisdom not to shatter my TV.
Amen.

2:19 AM - 17 Jun 2014
327 Retweets 303 favorites

TOD

KauaiK

(544 posts)
47. Makes me want to throw things
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jun 2014
I am seething that the corporate media actually has the balls to trot these idiot out as "experts". If they called them the liars that they are....maybe

No Vested Interest

(5,163 posts)
51. Paul Bremer will be the first morning guest on CSPAN today.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:28 AM
Jun 2014

Unfortunately, I'm a late riser, but would love to get on and rail at the CSPAN host(ess?) for inviting him to defend the indefensible.

Hope some of you out there are up to the task.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
53. WMD's
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:34 AM
Jun 2014

Those people were, and still are WMDs. Apart from little Johnny "Crash" McCain, how many served in uniform? They all made $$$ from these wars, and are upset that their profits will dry up. Disgusting people, every last one of them. They should all be in hiding, not on TV.

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