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A little over a decade ago, America was thrown into a senseless, brutal war that wreaked havoc on American and Iraqi lives, and well as our economy. Now, Iraq is experiencing a new influx of violence from an Al Qaeda-inspired Sunni Muslim insurgency.
Ring of Fires Mike Papantonio and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. discuss this story.
Shoonra
(520 posts)We don't need to throw American troops or American money into Iraq. Iraq can defend itself and beat the ISIS invaders simply by using all those Weapons of Mass Destruction that Bush, Cheney, Condi Rice, and other Republicans insisted it had in 2002 ... and which the Bush Administration never took away.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)That made them so much handier to use for defense, makes sense doesn't it?
Well now ISIS is bringing the weapons back into Iraq. We need to be afraid, very afraid. But I imagine it's nothing a few more trillions of dollars can't fix, or so it seems we are being told.
I think we need Dick Cheney for defense secretary again, he'll fix it all this time! Oh wait, the last time he was in that position he said to leave Sadam in place. Then he contradicted himself when he was Vice President. Is anyone ever right about this mess? Can we trust anyone?
Glenn Beck says the liberals are right about Iraq and Robertson says the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq, maybe we should listen to the liberals this time.
Personally I think we can only cause more harm if we do anything at all, at least that seems to be our record in the middle east. The best thing we can do is stay home and very quickly build and install more windmills and solar panels.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)because he will "break it" and YOU will have to buy it.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)and it won't come off so ol Bushy will have to break it. X_X
DhhD
(4,695 posts)before Islam took a hold around 650 AD. It will continue until the groups are settled and have deeds to land in their states. Maliki had a wonderful opportunity to have a political settlement with Sunnis after 2008 and while Obama was President.
During Bush's War, the Bush Administration removed Sunnis from the country and the government. Remember the Baath Party Personality Identification Playing Cards? The media reported on the capture of, or murder of, every Sunnis Baath Party member.
So it is a well known fact that the Bush Administration lead Shia Maliki's government into power. The people of Iraq can take care of themselves, just as Maliki told the US, to get out of Iraq, in 2011.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)who'd had some scary experiences, and a brother and friends who served. No one I knew came out "gung ho," but these were largely liberal and college flunkouts who were caught up in the draft. My brother did volunteer, for training, which never got him a civilian job. When it comes to war mongering, I have wanted to plant a fist through the screen every time I've seen Bill Kristol or Dick Cheney. I now feel the same about John McCain and Mittens. There is a big difference between those like Bill Clinton, who opposed Viet Nam, and John Kerry, who served and came back to oppose the war, and the so aptly named "chickenhawks." No one who has refused to "step up," and serve, or excused his children from doing so, has any right to criticize or offer any opinion. The fact that the wrong-headed instigators for Iraq are now being given a new forum to criticize the stance of the current administration is unbelievably mind blowing. Words can't express how wrong this is!