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djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/seeds-death/
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:52 PM
Jun 2014
Monsanto is the company that told us that PCBs were safe. They were convicted of actually poisoning people in their town next to the PCB factory, and fined $700 million. They told us that Agent Orange was safe. They told us that DDT was safe, and now they're in charge of telling us if their own genetically modified foods are safe because the FDA doesn't require a single safety study. They leave it to Monsanto.


And the shills will descend...

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
6. The Credible evidence is all around me ...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jun 2014

This is one of my answers to another DUers, where is the credible evidence questions ...

"I am old enough to have friends who farmed ... and some are still my friends ..

I have conversations with them over coffee and we reminisce about days gone by. These farmers owned 50 to 300 acres, with a few wealthy ones owning more. Most of these farming families were very good stewards of their land. The conversations usually center around family and a little politics but then sometimes gets back to what is happening to farming in America. Sometimes the talk becomes visceral around the subjects of crop yields and the hucksters on the commodity exchanges. The talk becomes particularly loud when the words agri-business come up and the many farmers they know that sold their farms for various reasons. Those reasons included; age, an heir willing to work and pray (for the sun to come up, but mainly for the rain to fall), crop yields, and money (more than they had ever been offered or thought could be offered per acre). These friends know now after these many years of seeing what agri-business has done with their farms exactly what is happening, and of course, we all intuitively know what they know.

That the business of agriculture in the USA today is disrupting the balance of the natural cycle of nature. This is just a couple of many disrupting examples:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120227111158.htm

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Bt_Toxin_Kills_Human_Kidney_Cells.php

You have stated that I am incorrect because there is no "credible evidence". My credible evidence is everywhere around me, I have so much evidence that it astounds me sometimes to see the veracity of change in my own environment. I look out my window and see no butterflies, I see less birds, I see fewer bees, and I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. The evidence is literally everywhere that I look with a critical thinking brain.

You have also again tried to mitigate with words like "pseudo, shrilly, advocacy, zero weight", that real scientists read this research and see the flaws immediately. I believe that more and more true scientists are beginning to step up to the plate and serve the American public some true research.

You are so 100% sure when you say it doesn't matter how much Bt I or my friends eat.. FYI: In well regarded institutions of higher learning (where you get your research from) they are still using the words "considered safe" amongst a host of other disclaiming words (likely so that in the future, when the lawsuits start raining down upon their heads, they can point to the disclaimers.) "

Quixote1818

(28,921 posts)
8. Natural News is trying to sell their products just like Monsanto
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jun 2014

They can claim anything to scare the crap out of people to buy their garbage products but without real scientific studies. Are GMO's perfectly safe? Probably some may have problems just like any other product but they are not "Seeds of Death". Otherwise people would not still be averaging living 30 years longer than they did 100 years ago. They would be dying off like flies since GMO's are eaten by just about everyone in the country every day.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
9. Unfortunately, you are correct in one part of your statement ...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jun 2014

that gmos are eaten by just about everyone everyday ...

except in these countries ...

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and that is the only true part of your statement ,,,

see my reply #5

wisechoice

(180 posts)
10. but there are more alergies
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:46 AM
Jun 2014

than we has 100 years ago. We don't know what gmo does in the long term. That is the problem. And when we do find problem with gmo, we won't be able to recall the crop. It will contaminate the conventional crops slowly...

LeftishBrit

(41,203 posts)
11. Monsanto isn't to be trusted; and neither is Natural News
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jun 2014

See what Natural News thinks of 'Obamacare':

http://www.naturalnews.com/036341_Obamacare_new_taxes_mandate.html

and of government-supported healthcare in general and vaccinations in particular:

http://blogs.naturalnews.com/health-freedom-and-religious-liberty-under-attack-by-aap/

As for Gary Null, he is an AIDS denialist among much else.

The enemy of our enemy is not always our friend. Often just a rival profiteer.

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