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Crosstalk from 6/26 - This debate is on FIRE! (Original Post) newthinking Jun 2014 OP
Something not heard at all on the MSM. zeemike Jun 2014 #1
60 Minutes used to have a Crossfire segment Warpy Jun 2014 #3
Neither do I. zeemike Jun 2014 #4
I don't watch TV at all either. Almost 30 years now...I ballyhoo Jun 2014 #8
Excellent discussion. RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #2
Obama -> Kerry -> Nuland: PNAC delrem Jun 2014 #5
Agree 100 per cent with ballyhoo Jun 2014 #7
The US, in the Ukraine and in the ME and everywhere else, is playing out PNAC's program. delrem Jun 2014 #10
It is that, delrem. But like all power-hungry megalomaniacs ballyhoo Jun 2014 #11
Excellent show! swilton Jun 2014 #6
Thanks for these RT posts, newthinking...It reminds ballyhoo Jun 2014 #9

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
3. 60 Minutes used to have a Crossfire segment
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 05:33 PM
Jun 2014

at the end of the 3 big stories that was occasionally this scrappy. It was wonderful. Then the Vietnam War ended and so did all controversy, I guess, since mergers and acquisitions across all news media started to shut down anything but the conservative drumbeat.

Now I never bother tuning in to national news. It's worthless infotainment.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. Neither do I.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 07:10 PM
Jun 2014

I don't watch TV at all...so really I am not qualified to say they don't cover it, but it is a pretty good guess that they don't
But I remember when 60 minutes used to be a much watch for me.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
8. I don't watch TV at all either. Almost 30 years now...I
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 12:51 AM
Jun 2014

really don't have a news source anymore. Seems like everything is simply made up. We are inching toward a banana republic.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
2. Excellent discussion.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jun 2014

I'm really glad I watched it.
But I didn't think the debate was "on fire."
I find the tendency to oversell things in order to attract eyeballs to be both tedious and worrisome.
Have we reached a point where anything without fireworks is considered a dud?
"Hyperbole is literally destroying the planet."

delrem

(9,688 posts)
5. Obama -> Kerry -> Nuland: PNAC
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 09:33 PM
Jun 2014

Nuland, hand-picked by Obama, praised to the skies by Kerry, is pure PNAC.

Not connected to "change", nor to "hope".
Just to more war and lies according as the identical template, and none of it possible without 100% cooperation from MSNBC, FOX, CNN, and what Michael Hastings (in _The Operators_) correctly labelled the MIC/MSM-complex.

Is DU part of it?

The denial of this and other blatant in-your-face facts by DUers (re. the Ukraine, Syria, Libya, ...) is perhaps the most depressing (and eye opening) things I've encountered in the past 10 yrs.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
7. Agree 100 per cent with
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jun 2014

everything you said. Putin will eventually be forced to respond more forcefully. His request to the Federation to not allow troops into Kiev was surprising to me. Now Putin knows a lot more than any of us about what is going on; still, to me, it may have been a mistake. And the US media: pure comic book journalism.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
10. The US, in the Ukraine and in the ME and everywhere else, is playing out PNAC's program.
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 01:50 AM
Jun 2014

PNAC is clearly "the bipartisan core" of the MIC.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
11. It is that, delrem. But like all power-hungry megalomaniacs
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jun 2014

in history--Alexander, Caligula, Hitler, Ivan--these people and their leader(s) will go down in flames as the common man rallies with his bricks and sticks and that more powerful that hasn't been taken from them by seemingly well-intentioned people. It's coming as sure as God made little green apples. I won't be standing on the sidelines watching or posting. I'll bet you won't be either.

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