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MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:10 PM Dec 2014

Cuba already went through an energy famine - How they survived "peak oil" (53 mins)

Without, oil, Cuba was already put through what we will inevitably go through after peak oil…

Here's an excellent documentary of how we can learn FAR more from Cuba's sustainable energy, through their political will, rather than exhausting oil. Cuba did not have access to the World Bank, so this is a REAL experiment with an oil crisis.

We can LEARN from this:



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Cuba already went through an energy famine - How they survived "peak oil" (53 mins) (Original Post) MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 OP
Cant wait! Elmergantry Dec 2014 #1
Perfect! MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #2
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Peace Patriot Dec 2014 #3
Awesome documentary! And a very, VERY important one! Peace Patriot Dec 2014 #4
Wow freedom fighter jh Dec 2014 #5
I think one very important distinction ... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #8
Oh, I didn't think about the World Bank. freedom fighter jh Dec 2014 #11
"I suppose Cuba is outside of their reach…" MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #12
What mistake was that? freedom fighter jh Dec 2014 #13
I'll borrow from Wikipedia's description MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #14
Tx 4 that info. nt freedom fighter jh Dec 2014 #15
Thank you, MrMickeysMom. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #6
You are welcomed! … eom MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #7
I was travelling back and forth frequently during that period. Mika Dec 2014 #9
You're welcomed… Unity is more meaningful... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #10

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
2. Perfect!
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 09:32 PM
Dec 2014

Isn't this the vehicle of choice for a Sinclair Lewis novel traveling evangelist?

Enjoy your stay!

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
4. Awesome documentary! And a very, VERY important one!
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:16 AM
Dec 2014

Thanks for posting it! I've bookmarked it and will be sending it around to friends!

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
5. Wow
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:47 AM
Dec 2014

I learned a great deal from watching this. I had no real idea of what Cuba went through in the nineties. I just remember David Brinkley, on his Sunday morning talk show, gloating about what terrible shape Cuba must be in -- something about a downward spiral -- given that they were importing bicycles.

From this video it looks like Cuba has taken on the challenges that will soon be with all of us, and after some suffering they have thrived.

Thank you for posting.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
8. I think one very important distinction ...
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:24 PM
Dec 2014

They have been a sort of test case for truly independent solutions to food deserts, since the World Bank couldn't muscle in, as they once might have. They learned by trial and error local farming, then discovered the nature of the slow food movement, took it beyond the limited vegetable based diet they had. I didn't see too many heavy Cubans. Maybe bad teeth, but otherwise well developed and well nourished adults.

Sure, it isn't the United States, but the pockets of food deserts we have in the US can take a few lessons here.

One of the other things I've always understood about literacy there might have assisted with learning. They are more literate than we are in the US.

You're welcomed.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
11. Oh, I didn't think about the World Bank.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:03 PM
Dec 2014

Good point.

I've heard about the International Monetary Fund (which, I think, is related to the World Bank) "helping" out struggling countries by giving them loans that the country can repay only by exploiting its natural resources, sometimes creating a lot of pollution. It doesn't usually end well.

I suppose Cuba is outside of their reach.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
12. "I suppose Cuba is outside of their reach…"
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:03 PM
Dec 2014

… I would say they are, for now…" I don't think they'll make the same mistake twice as in the times of Batista.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
14. I'll borrow from Wikipedia's description
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 07:24 AM
Dec 2014

Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar (January 16, 1901 – August 6, 1973) was the elected President of Cuba from 1940 to 1944, and dictator from 1952 to 1959, before being overthrown as a result of the Cuban Revolution.

Batista initially rose to power as part of the 1933 "Revolt of the Sergeants" that overthrew the authoritarian rule of Gerardo Machado. Batista then appointed himself chief of the armed forces, with the rank of colonel, and effectively controlled the five-member Presidency. He maintained this control through a string of puppet presidents until 1940, when he was himself elected President of Cuba on a populist platform. He then instated the 1940 Constitution of Cuba, considered progressive for its time, and served until 1944. After finishing his term he lived in the United States, returning to Cuba to run for president in 1952. Facing certain electoral defeat, he led a military coup that preempted the election.

Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans. Batista's increasingly corrupt and repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with the American mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large multinational American corporations that had invested considerable amounts of money in Cuba.
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
9. I was travelling back and forth frequently during that period.
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 12:54 PM
Dec 2014

Tough times. Cubans handled it with aplomb. Unity.

Thanks for posting this again.



MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
10. You're welcomed… Unity is more meaningful...
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 02:13 PM
Dec 2014

… when you have absolutely no other back up plan.

I don't think my particular view gathers this as an action plan in the U.S. quite yet.

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