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In the wake of the first Democratic debate, its clear to see that both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton came out looking incredibly strong. One hurdle that Bernie will have to overcome, however, is fighting the knee-jerk reaction to the words democratic socialism.
Ring of Fires Farron Cousins and Sam Seder discuss this.
WhoIsNumberNone
(7,875 posts)was their being run out of power by the Nazis- Who, incidentally promised to stop all the "thems" who were contaminating and weakening "our" white culture. Anybody else we know who talks like that?
sorechasm
(631 posts)Your family denies social security checks, avoids public schools, libraries, and hospitals, drives only on toll roads, refuses to use the postal system, have never benefitted from regulation, etc., etc.
It's a vocabulary term referring to the degree to which we choose to cooperatively pay for certain goods and services.
Unfortunately, we are not receiving the potential benefits of Democratic Capitalism since this vocabulary term has been co-opted to refer to trickle-down theory. Over time this economic vocabulary term has resulted in Taxation without Representation since our tax dollars are not being used to support the will of the people (unless you believe $4.8M Benghazi Hearings are a good investment of your hard work).
By contrast, if most of Bernie's policies are favored by most Americans, you would have to conclude that most Americans favor Democratic Socialism over trickle-down theories.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)That thinking must be corrected. In other words, when the older generations sees a Socialist, they immediately think the candidate is a Communist. PinkOs is the term TX R-Senator Ted Cruz uses, a term which he uses to describe Ivy League Professors.
BainsBane
(53,029 posts)of the difference between communism and socialism, and I have read quite a bit of Marxist literature.
The other point is that communists in Cuba and the then USSR refer to themselves and their economic systems as socialist.
I don't agree with Bernie's notion of what constitutes socialism. Scandinavian countries are capitalist: they have capitalist economies with party systems that include social democrats, but then so do many countries in the world. The social democrats sometimes are the ruling party and sometimes not. So what would that mean? When the conservatives hold power the country goes back to being capitalist and then it is against socialist following another election? No. Socialism and capitalism are economic systems. What those Scandinavian nations have is a more robust safety net that assuages the excesses of capitalism, but the economies are still based on profit and the exploitation of labor in which workers are separated from the means of production. Hence they are capitalist.