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Hillary Clinton's flip flops: from same-sex marriage to TPPMrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)They demonstrate how much work you contribute to being the visionary leader we need today.
If you do the work as she has done, count on it..... COUNT ON IT... changing in accordance to what she's "learned" tomorrow.
That's not leadership and it's certainly not the leadership I've seen all along in every single vote of Bernie Sanders.
AzDar
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(50,983 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)I really don't understand that. These are things that should doom her candidacy.
appalachiablue
(41,105 posts)It's inbuilt in many. Also few regular people will see the reality in this video that's illustrated so clearly. The Clintons have also built up political capital and many loyal connections over 25+ years. Few know much about the real manoueverings and inside stories regarding politicians and public figures. Corporate owned media is also influenced and biased we know.
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JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Keep this kicked, please.
It's important that everyone note that Hillary makes a lot of mistakes of judgment.
Bernie was on the right side of each of these issues from the get-go. That's because he has better judgment than Hillary.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)We can't simply ignore this.
marble falls
(57,014 posts)change and promises.
Trump, any of the rest of the clown car? Or Hilliary Clinton? If thats our choice is there really any doubt?
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Crickets.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)It's a crime, and the worst crime there is. She enthusiastically supported the World's worst crime this century.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Her stance on gay marriage seems to have been just poll chasing. I wonder if she really cared either way about gay marriage. Was there a time where her evolving position jumped ahead of the polls? I cannot think of it.
On the TPP, the current version, which is still reprehensible, has more protections for labor and reduces protections for drug companies. The labor protections were weaker and the protection of drug company patents were stronger when she was negotiating it. So now she is against it? This is so absurdly cynical.
On the Keystone her opposition isn't even really opposition. She consideres it a "distraction from the real work of fighting climate change" (paraphrased). She could easily trade it off in a deal for some very weak-sauce legislated compromises. She never really agreed with the scientists who think this is one of the more horrible deals for the environment. She doesn't stand on the principle or the science, but on some idea of a future deal that she never actually outlines. Cynical, cynical, cynical...
I am still kicking and recommending this post.