Of course they need to stop Sanders. He's the only non-corrupt candidate.


This kind of thing is exactly what happens to anybody who tries to discuss the horrible trade agendas the US is pushing. Exactly. I have assumed that thats the reason Bernie is being pushed out of the media. They don't want people to know about what is in effect an attempt to use sleazy lawyers tricks to take over the whole future.

Thats what the experts agree - thats not a conspiracy theory its fact.

They have been gaming us since NAFTA- read Page 8 here:

http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/lwp/nafta.pdf

and what he is trying to expose. So I'm sure they are fucking him over as much as possible.

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they should be ashamed of themselves.

On health care, do people realize that the WTO will likely overturn the ACA's bar on medical underwriting and people with preexisting conditions As soon as they get jurisdiction. Which will be soon after the election because Hillary's recipe for health care is to keep the waste and dump the doctors and globalize the provision of health insurance services and health care services.

The WTO has no right to tell us we cannot have any new services or that thats stealing from corporations, even if the US wrote that agreement.

Certainly not any of the more influential Democrats.

Only Ross Perot and Buchanan made a big stink about it.

Many Democrats dismissed Buchanan as a racist, but after NAFTA's passage, he made a terrifically impassioned and sympathetic speech detailing the pain that the Mexican middle class went through when wages in that nation went from 87 cents an hour to around 45 cents.

Not a single Democrat I can remember said it was anything but GOOD. Like MMM Good. That's what NAFTA soup is, MMM MMM, good! Even Robert Reich was totally in favor of it!

If NAFTA is that bad, think how horrible the TPP and TTIP are going to be...if corporations get their bought and paid for government to pass these disastrous "trade" pacts?

Of course these GREEDY BASTARDS want to rid the campaign of Bernie...

not just here, globally.

That call for playing nicely.

Breaking: Report Of High Level DNC Infiltration In N. Carolina Sanders Campaign
by Rob Cotton 19/03/2016 | 2:48 0 Posted in featured, The Bad
Bernie Sanders with Niko House

Bernie Sanders with Niko House

Niko House is the President of North Carolina College Students for Bernie Sanders. In a recent video posted to youtube, he describes the orchestrated infiltration of the Bernie Sanders campaign in that state by well-connected DNC operatives. House goes into great detail to describe intimidation tactics used against his group that seemed counterproductive – suppression of advertising for events, reaching out to the community, etc.

He goes into some detail explaining that the outsiders who stepped in and took over the campaign from the initial grassroots organizers made what seemed like a concerted effort to not reach out to black leaders in North Carolina and basically ran the campaign into the ground. The videos are worth a watch and pretty illuminating. I’d also say they’re disturbing, but we’ve all come to expect these types of tricks from the Clinton campaign.

The first video is some background and in the second he starts naming names. This is fascinating stuff. You’re not going to see this on the neoliberal corporate media.

This is beginning to explain a hell of lot. Thanks again.

... but it doesn't really surprise me.

Don't you? And Sanders has been known to walk off during interviews.

I didn't know that Sander's record of military service was being used against him. That's swift boating, if you're referring to how the GOP attacked Kerry. Oh wait... he has no service record.

Voting irregularities are more in Sanders' favor than anything. He out performed in some states where multiple polls had him further behind.

So that leaves this unsubstantiated claim of infiltration as the only thing you can hang your hat on. We shall see how it plays out.

to a type of political smear, not necessarily having anything to do with the military. It is a tactic attacking a person's strengths.

I.e. Voting irregularities, Bernie Sanders is the ONLY candidate running a clean campaign. He has always been a person of integrity hence the Swiftboating attacks on him.

Infiltration: we are seeing how it's playing out. This video points that out blatantly.

all donate heavily to the Clinton campaign. If you really can't concede that the corporate media doesn't want a Sanders presidency you are very naive. They desperately want a president trump but they can settle for Clinton, either way those will both be great for ratings and advertising dollars.

that make their candidate look like a dishonest person. So you're wasting your time.

There. Fixed your dismissive post for you.

I read an actual interview with the head of one of the big media companies (it's been a couple weeks and I forget which) that actually said he knows that giving Trump all the publicity is bad for the country, but it keeps the money rolling in. In other words, good for ratings. No, they want HRC, all right. All the deep pockets seem to work together.

And that's another fact that Clinton supporters will deny without blinking or blushing.

The reporter went overtime on a list of questions that may as well have been written by Brock or Mook. And, in any event, that has nothing to do with why media has treated Sanders as it has.

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/why-the-bernie-blackout-on-corporate-network-news/

As for the DNC running the media, it doesn't need to. The media is as establishment as it can be.

Denials that Sanders has been treated badly by the DNC, by the Party and by the media are baseless.

How does it all work?

You do understand that the DNC does not run "the media"..

Ya, we know that.. the Oligarchy runs the media and the politics.

is going to keep you stuck in the mud.

Here's what so many Sanders gripes sound like to me:
- "If only the media wouldn't treat Bernie so mean or ignore him, the people's eyes would be opened to the truth"
- "If only DSW wasn't in charge of the DNC, more citizens would feel the Bern"
- "If only those southern states weren't so confederate Bernie would be leading"
- "If Hillary were not a woman people would have the blinding wool removed from their eyes"

Am I missing any reasons?

the goebbel media so often it may as well be on a loop tape.

You made that one up. I haven't seen even one post saying that. Most want Warren--because she is an honest progressive--woman.

Are you saying that DW-S is not working the system for Clinton? This is a fact.
Are you saying that the media hasn't largely blacked out the Sanders campaign? There are facts you know.
Are you saying that Clinton doesn't get big donation's from the media moguls? Fact.
Are you saying Clintons wins across the south weren't in red states? Look at a map, please.

So these are actually true but stated in the dripping condescending way that you have mastered. We get it. Go away.

And then you responded to my post with a validation of why you blame. Those things may very well be the logs that make up the dam that's holding back the gushing flood of Bernie goodness.

You see, that doesn't matter. You can't control any of those things. Work around them. Try to win despite them.

Red states hold liberals as well as conservatives. Turning off good democratic voters is not a winning strategy. But who knows. I could be wrong. Maybe it's a great strategy to write off potential allies. Maybe Bernie is so compelling that his campaign doesn't need to build a coalition.

Please proceed, anothergreenbus.

to point out that you ignored the factual part of my comment.
Like I said above, Clinton supporters can not process negative information (facts) about their candidate.
They can claim inevitability, or Trump is so scary, but never a peep about the flaws of their candidate--or should I say idol.
If you were as sure as you seem to be on the integrity of your candidate, you would address the serious problems with her corruption with serious answers. If you could do that you would win over lots of people. But just stomping your feet, or strutting around arrogantly doesn't help your cause.

My cause is simple--either help Sanders to win, or help him to expose the corruption of the Democratic Party, or to help him establish a real progressive platform in the convention, or all of the above. Would I vote for Clinton? Only if she takes clear and unequivocal positions on things like stopping the TPP, global warming, keystone, predatory lending, Wall Street criminality and drug company exploration.

So rather than snarking your day away, why don't you help her do that and ensure that she is a slam dunk in the general? Assuming she wins the primary of course, which is not yet over by any means.

I hope a democrat wins in November. I will do what I do each presidential election cycle, whoever our nominee happens to be.

You choose to focus on negative traits only. That's fine, if you choose to do that.

I guess I take people as I see them. I don't expect perfection from any person. I believe Hillary when she talks about issues of civil rights and the rights of women. I stand with her on her position on guns. At those times when I disagree with her should she be our nominee, I'll send a note or call to register my disagreement.

But I'm not going to do any of those things leading up to the general. My enemy is trump or whoever the GOP nominee happens to be. It's not Sanders. Some of his supporters aren't people I would like to spend time with. But then again, neither are all of Hillary's.

I'm not snarking my day, whatever that is. I'm organizing a spare bedroom, windows open, enjoying the first day of spring. I am checking on the value of some items on ebay to determine if it's something to throw out, donate or try to sell. Weirdly, my most valuable DVD is Maid to Order with Alley Sheedy, going for about $19-25 dollars on ebay. Why? I couldn't tell you. I switch over to DU to see who has replied to one or my posts and to scan the home page. It's a wonderful day, actually.

Have a nice spring day. (That's not a snark.)

Hope you have a nice spring day, too

Whatever you're smoking.

I can't make sense out of your statement. Come again?

I would also like a hit off that thing.

after donating to her foundation. Would you prefer to talk about that rather than her pandering to Goldman Sachs?

http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/arab-dictatorships-pour-money-into-clinton-foundation-150227?news=855805

You can mince words if you want but someone at the State Department approved these arm sales while Hillary was SoS:

...arms sales. The President and the Pentagon make those decisions.

The traditional sequence of events for the congressional review of an arms sale proposal has been the submission by the Department of State (on behalf of the President) of a preliminary or informal classified notification of a prospective major arms sale 20 calendar days before the executive branch takes further formal action. This informal notification is provided to the committees of primary jurisdiction for arms sales issues.

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL31675.pdf

And if the sale doesn't look good to the State Department would the sale not be rejected there first?

Does the President rely on the SoS to make the best judgement on these matters? Or was Hillary just a figure head?

Her Assistant Secretary claims Hilary made this other weapons sale a priority. Does that not infer that she is involved in and has a major role to play in what weapon sales will be approved at the State Department level?:

Nobody has to smear Hillary. We just look at her record and we see what she is about: money and corruption.

Do you think Trump is good because he is winning too?

what a friggin' joke. She cares about herself and shares with Wall St.

when a dad lost his hold on the harness he was using to keep a rein on his uncontrollable kid, who then proceeded to run around screaming, knocking shit over everywhere.

Don't know what made me think of that just now.

War in Iraq
Debacle in Libya
Criminality in Columbia
Coup in Honduras
Worked out the "Gold Standard" of trade deals
Bribes from Wall Street
Bribes from Big Pharma
Bribes from Profit Prison corporations
Etc.

That's quite a record. And that's just for starters.

Hillary is not responsible for Latin American in anyway:
The GOP and Reagan ordered military action( that was their
baby).

Sorry: you cannot blame the GOP sins on Hillary

Also: In Kosvo: the Clintons also were competent enough to
win the peace. The people of Kosvo love America and their
streets named after Clinton and Hillary.

Where the Clintons have intervened: is was asked for and with Allies: they
were successful in every way: The Clinton's didn't leave our boys
to fight in an endless war.

On top of all that: Not a single American solder was lost!!!

In your callous and narcissistic bubble you can praise Bill Clinton's intervention in the Balkans and ignore the vast devastation and human suffering that precipitates from Hillary Clinton's cavalier interventions (and yes she did vote for the Iraq war with glee). But I can't. What kind of degenerate does one have to be to turn a blind eye to the hundreds of thousands of people that have suffered or died as a direct result of Clinton's polices in Honduras and Libya? Just to name only two interventions. I dare you to learn about them.

Honduras:
As Greg Grandin recently noted in the Nation, Zelaya’s ouster paved the way for “an all-out assault on these decent people—torture, murder, militarization of the countryside, repressive laws, such as the absolute ban on the morning-after pill, the rise of paramilitary security forces, and the wholesale deliverance of the country’s land and resources to transnational pillagers.”

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/09/24/hillary-clinton-emails-and-honduras-coup
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/18/hillary_must_answer_for_honduras_partner/
http://www.thenation.com/article/as-the-united-states-votes-honduras-kills/

Libya:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/politics/hillary-clinton-libya-election-2016/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/libya-isis-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/07/hillary-libya-nato-qaddafi-obama/

And please don't give me the "Oh Please" treatment for pointing to the facts.

I'm interested to know more about your political "credentials".

They guy is describing incompetent campaign staffers hired by the Sanders campaign. What is the connection to the DNC?
The DNC doesn't provide staff. Campaigns hire their staff through their own networks.

At the beginning of the video, the guys says Bernie told him NC was the most organized state. And later they sent in a staffer. The most organized state didn't have a field director or field staff. That despites well over $100 million in donations.

The incompetence of the Sanders campaign can only be explained by a conspiracy theory.