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Bernie Sanders Walks Off Interview After Asked About Wife's Clash With Arpaio (Original Post) George II Mar 2016 OP
Oh MY! BooScout Mar 2016 #1
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #2
Good for Bernie! PotatoChip Mar 2016 #3
actually he left after addressing the issue, moved on to his closing and ended the interview magical thyme Mar 2016 #4
Not true - the interview was scheduled for 5-7 minutes, he left before 4 minutes expired. George II Mar 2016 #7
What's not true? Cowpunk Mar 2016 #11
Read that one again - he was "on a tight schedule" yet he left his SCHEDULED interview... George II Mar 2016 #12
How did you know how long the interview was scheduled for? How about the rest of the questions? DhhD Mar 2016 #20
The news station said so, and the interviewer commented at the very end "I never had..., George II Mar 2016 #24
I watched the interviewer talk about it as well! pandr32 Mar 2016 #29
And it wasn't the first time he's done this. George II Mar 2016 #35
Nope! pandr32 Mar 2016 #60
What exactly is presidential demeanor? sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #74
Start with losing your temper, and rudely ending the interview. riversedge Mar 2016 #80
Common sense should help you answer your own question. pandr32 Mar 2016 #82
If a retort stating that the pot sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #105
This is way worse than Hillary voting for the Iraq war Perogie Mar 2016 #101
I feel a great debt of gratitude for having my eyes opened! GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #103
And if the interview started late? Cowpunk Mar 2016 #21
Watch the video - we all know what happened. George II Mar 2016 #37
I did. Cowpunk Mar 2016 #45
He didn't have a plane to catch. George II Mar 2016 #65
ha ha. Making stuff up. riversedge Mar 2016 #81
OH THE HUMANITY! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #25
It's not his "minutes", it's his demeanor, which is why he's not very well liked in the Senate. George II Mar 2016 #39
You might get testy too Plucketeer Mar 2016 #48
He's been "testy" for his entire 25+ year career in Congress, not just this week in a 3-minute.... George II Mar 2016 #63
" If he's pissing off everyone around him," Plucketeer Mar 2016 #71
A President doesn't enact legislation. If a President wants to get anything done, he/she.... George II Mar 2016 #77
Again Plucketeer Mar 2016 #89
Instead of just parroting the same little catch phrases, why not tell us how.... George II Mar 2016 #90
I'm actually betting Plucketeer Mar 2016 #91
You are serving to make Bernie look better Bangbangdem Mar 2016 #52
Effective politicians are rarely likeable chapdrum Mar 2016 #83
Show Me FACTS He's NOT WELL LIKED! Too Many DO REALLY Like ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #84
His legislative record. George II Mar 2016 #85
Legislation Means He's NOT Liked? WOW! n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #86
If you don't work well with your colleagues, or if you're not persuasive.... George II Mar 2016 #88
He did a great job turning what the interviewer intended as an attack into an opportunity to get his JDPriestly Mar 2016 #97
..... George II Mar 2016 #98
They made a mountain out of a molehill will this one Harriety Mar 2016 #5
As are the Hillary folks here. KPN Mar 2016 #43
Not good optics...when the questions are not to his taste, Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #6
Bernie is not the typical Candidate Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #49
Communication techniques can be improved without jeopardizing authenticity. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #54
Please, Bernie! Get some training in the Constantin Stanislavski acting method. Petrushka Mar 2016 #61
Good for you Bernie!!! Oak3Tree Mar 2016 #8
Exactly! Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #50
Couldn't agree more, and I would've done the same. Nickel79 Mar 2016 #62
Bernie realized as soon as the question about the Minutemen came up it was a smear attempt. jalan48 Mar 2016 #9
YUP KPN Mar 2016 #44
12News - Contact US Oak3Tree Mar 2016 #10
So not ready. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #13
Totally agree. Helen Borg Mar 2016 #16
You're Right Plucketeer Mar 2016 #27
My favorite is the clip of her brushing greiner3 Mar 2016 #41
And ... KPN Mar 2016 #46
This goes directly to the problem of Brenie's well known bad temper. Walk away Mar 2016 #72
Can you even imagine what would have happened Loki Mar 2016 #102
Last week I watched Chris Matthews try to brow beat her into losing her cool.... Walk away Mar 2016 #104
Sometimes I think that is what he is doing. Loki Mar 2016 #106
I usually think Matthews is only listening to himself.... Walk away Mar 2016 #107
I don't think it's lint Plucketeer Mar 2016 #47
I wouldn't worry...they'll all be dead before June! Walk away Mar 2016 #73
Totally ready. Old Crow Mar 2016 #66
lol - no, we wouldn't want a President who says what he means RiverNoord Mar 2016 #67
This is so yesterday. You must not have even watched your own post. Bernie ends hostile interview FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #14
Thank you for posting this! monicaangela Mar 2016 #15
And Bernie even managed a "Thank you very much" at the end sketchy Mar 2016 #34
Absolutely, he always is monicaangela Mar 2016 #79
Ugh. Not ready for sure Iliyah Mar 2016 #17
Just punching in I see. Ellipsis Mar 2016 #18
k&r DesertRat Mar 2016 #19
This reminds me of the Black Lives Matter kerfuffle Cowpunk Mar 2016 #22
Thank you for this, George. Cha Mar 2016 #23
Good Morning, Cha! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #33
Slick? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #40
He has become unhinged Politicub Mar 2016 #26
Hillary would not agree to an interview except with her INdemo Mar 2016 #87
He answered the question and then ended the interview. bluedigger Mar 2016 #28
Is this supposed to be some type of criticism of Sanders? Carlo Marx Mar 2016 #30
Deft Orrex Mar 2016 #31
K&R mcar Mar 2016 #32
Actually, he allocated 4 minutes to the interview, when the 4 minutes was up, he left. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #36
good for him, and weak fodder for his foes stupidicus Mar 2016 #38
He ended the interview, rightfully so! Duval Mar 2016 #42
very unpresidential . stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #51
Yes, he'll do well with Republicans who'd be so gentle. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #53
Bernie is solid gold. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #55
So obvious, Bernie is only the adult in the room. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #56
Really? This impunes Sanders' intergrity? mdbl Mar 2016 #57
The interviewer attempt to create a tempest in a teapot was a huge fail. avaistheone1 Mar 2016 #58
That is not true and real clear politics could post the other videos of Jane Sanders ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #59
The American media tries to fabricate controversy where there is none Nickel79 Mar 2016 #64
He refused to listen to the question and broke off into an abbreviated stump speech Generic Brad Mar 2016 #68
Hey guess what Bernie? NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #69
If the media supports him, he can get away with anything. Nickel79 Mar 2016 #75
You're kidding, right? NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #76
I agree that she's been thoroughly scrutinized by a republican Congress in recent years Nickel79 Mar 2016 #78
It wasn't only the Republican Congress NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #92
We obviously disagree, and that's perfectly okay... Nickel79 Mar 2016 #99
Good chatting with you, too, Nickel NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #100
Hillary takes a few days off to take care of business and Bernie and Jane take ... Walk away Mar 2016 #70
Taking care of business indeed. Cowpunk Mar 2016 #93
To run against Trump. And I'm glad she is! Walk away Mar 2016 #94
The bias of that reporter was pretty obvious shawn703 Mar 2016 #95
WOW Gothmog Mar 2016 #96

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
3. Good for Bernie!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

I'm happy to see him stand up for himself and Jane like that. He's run a brilliant campaign, but the one area that I feel he needs to improve on is calling out the lies. It's nice to see him doing more of that now.

Thank you for this George!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
4. actually he left after addressing the issue, moved on to his closing and ended the interview
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:07 AM
Mar 2016

and from what I've read elsewhere, he was on a tight schedule and had a rally to go to.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Read that one again - he was "on a tight schedule" yet he left his SCHEDULED interview...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

....early.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
20. How did you know how long the interview was scheduled for? How about the rest of the questions?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

Do you know if the remaining questions were deforming?

Thanks.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. The news station said so, and the interviewer commented at the very end "I never had...,
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

....a candidate walk off before".

pandr32

(11,446 posts)
29. I watched the interviewer talk about it as well!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

He was quite incredulous! Bernie showed his rather unpresidential demeanor once again.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
74. What exactly is presidential demeanor?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

Is it cackling like the Wicked With of the West when making a bad allusion to Cesare's letter to the Roman Senate in 47 BC while bragging about the murder of Muammar Gaddafi? That kind of presidential demeanor?

Perogie

(687 posts)
101. This is way worse than Hillary voting for the Iraq war
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

I'm so glad you pointed out how horrible Bernie is for ending an Interview before it was over. All the lives lost because of Bernie not finishing the video can never be explained away.

Cowpunk

(718 posts)
21. And if the interview started late?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:46 AM
Mar 2016

Then he was trying to conform to his tight schedule. Neither of us knows what happened.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
25. OH THE HUMANITY!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:00 AM
Mar 2016

I'm gonna shoot off a reminder to Bernie..... Please Bernie - KEEP YOUR MINUTES STRAIGHT!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
48. You might get testy too
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:34 AM
Mar 2016

If you had to fight against a corrupt operation that had picked the "voters choice" some years ago - then were confronted with some dweebie reporter's cheap shot. If he's not liked in the Senate, M A Y B E it's because he just doesn't play "the game" well with others. If that's a fault, I love him for it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
63. He's been "testy" for his entire 25+ year career in Congress, not just this week in a 3-minute....
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

....aborted interview. His attitude has alienated his peers in Congress AND in Vermont, too! Just the fact that he couldn't even get support from his own Governor, fellow Senator, or even the current mayor of his home town.

That says quite a bit about his demeanor and ability to accomplish anything. If he's pissing off everyone around him, how is he possibly going to get anything done as President?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
71. " If he's pissing off everyone around him,"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

Wow! Imagine a president who wouldn't just "play along" with the corrupt and phony status quo. Yeah - that would be HORRIBLE for we peons that expect our reps to do for us what we pay them to. Hillary certainly sounds like the right choice for you!

George II

(67,782 posts)
77. A President doesn't enact legislation. If a President wants to get anything done, he/she....
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

.....has to get the cooperation of Congress.

You call it "playing along", most call it being effective.

George II

(67,782 posts)
90. Instead of just parroting the same little catch phrases, why not tell us how....
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

....Sanders can get his policies enacted if he can't get anyone to work with him.

This is the United States, not Emerald City.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
91. I'm actually betting
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:42 PM
Mar 2016

you're smarter than you let on. So I'm not gonna waste keystrokes when you already took that test. Of course, if I'm wrong, then have a nice day!

 

Bangbangdem

(140 posts)
52. You are serving to make Bernie look better
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:50 AM
Mar 2016

Not worse than what your post implies. Which I assume was your aim. You certainly failed at that. And your insistence that you proved that point makes you seem even more incredulous. Not sure what the point of all of this is.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
83. Effective politicians are rarely likeable
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:14 PM
Mar 2016

We saw the efficacy of voting for a guy you'd like to have a beer with.

Vote for me, I'm likeable.

What nonsense.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
84. Show Me FACTS He's NOT WELL LIKED! Too Many DO REALLY Like
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:12 PM
Mar 2016

him and work well with him. Just because THIS DEMOCRATIC PARTY wants Hillary to be elected doesn't mean he isn't liked. It's the MEMO and MESSAGE and some fear thrown in that they won't go off the Ranch! In time, you will find out.

George II

(67,782 posts)
88. If you don't work well with your colleagues, or if you're not persuasive....
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:44 PM
Mar 2016

....you don't get legislation passed. Period.

Have you any idea of how many pieces of legislation Representative/Senator Sanders introduced that actually got passed?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
97. He did a great job turning what the interviewer intended as an attack into an opportunity to get his
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:07 AM
Mar 2016

message across.

I respect Bernie for his responses to that interviewer. Great job he did.

He was polite but firm, and he focused on his positive agenda not on negative questions.

I can picture Bernie being an excellent negotiator when it comes to foreign policy.

Harriety

(298 posts)
5. They made a mountain out of a molehill will this one
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:07 AM
Mar 2016

A non story for sure. Bernie's 4 minutes were up and to me it seems weird that the man questioning him went to a totally different subject in a nano second.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Not good optics...when the questions are not to his taste,
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:09 AM
Mar 2016

he gets all flushed and almost flustered. His eyes start darting around, as if he's looking for the nearest exit.

He needs some training on stagecraft--that's what interviews are after all, stage performance.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
49. Bernie is not the typical Candidate
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:47 AM
Mar 2016

That is why we like him. Why should he tolerate the BS questions?

Maybe other candidates can dance around and spend 5 minutes saying absolutely nothing so that they can move on to the next question. Bernie isn't a bull crap speaker so his answers are correct - direct and OVER when they are OVER.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
54. Communication techniques can be improved without jeopardizing authenticity.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

The first does not preclude the second.

Being President of the US on the world scene requires more finely honed stage skills than being a senator or the mayor of a Vermont town.

 

Oak3Tree

(75 posts)
8. Good for you Bernie!!!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

Thank you Bernie!

Right-on. That reporter clearly had the agenda of antagonism. Bernie has no time for such non-sense. I completely agree!

I think I will look up this station and reporter, they need to hear from me.

 

Nickel79

(81 posts)
62. Couldn't agree more, and I would've done the same.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:38 PM
Mar 2016

When you answer a question and someone insists on antagonizing you and trying to start a fight, it's better to walk away. They aren't interested in your answer, they aren't being respectful, and they aren't worthy of your time. Whether it's Bernie or Average Joe, I agree with the decision to end the interview there.

jalan48

(13,797 posts)
9. Bernie realized as soon as the question about the Minutemen came up it was a smear attempt.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:13 AM
Mar 2016

Sanders has never shown any inclination to support right wing groups like the Minutemen. Look at his history in fighting for civil and social rights. And then somehow his wife's visit to Arpaio's hell hole is some type of support for it. Why should he have to go over the same BS again? Good for him for ending the interview.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
41. My favorite is the clip of her brushing
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:21 AM
Mar 2016

Some lint off the shoulder at one of her House questionings.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
72. This goes directly to the problem of Brenie's well known bad temper.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:19 AM - Edit history (1)

It's important for the country to see that he hasn't taken anger management to heart just because he wants us to make him commander and chief. Don't you believe that we should know how a person should behave under pressure when they want to be the POTUS?

Bernie couldn't even answer a hard question in an interview he agreed to. This is not a good sign. It should be seen by as many people as possible before they vote and it's their business how they interpret it. If you don't think it's a big deal, let America judge for themselves.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
102. Can you even imagine what would have happened
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:12 AM
Mar 2016

to Hillary had she done anything similar when being verbally abused by the Republican's on the Benghazi Committee, and she sat there for a solid ELEVEN HOURS? Someone else would have crumpled like a cheap suit, and when you can't stand the heat, you better get out of the damn kitchen.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
104. Last week I watched Chris Matthews try to brow beat her into losing her cool....
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

he acted like a total asshole as usual and he was clearly desperate for a gotcha moment with her. He failed miserably and when it was over he mumbled "you seem ready to be president tomorrow".
Bernie would have literally exploded after the first minute!

Some lucky interviewer is going to push Bernie over the edge and make media history!!!

Loki

(3,825 posts)
106. Sometimes I think that is what he is doing.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

Showing the viewing public just what mettle she is made of. Giving her an easy, comfortable setting doesn't show what she could do as president when dealing with people that really don't like us. She makes it look easy, and she IS ready.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
47. I don't think it's lint
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

or even dandruff for that matter. I believe it's one of those little Sig line bugs that some Hillbots keep swatting at. Maybe she's never had her closet fumigated!

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
66. Totally ready.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

It quickly became clear that it was a hostile, right-wing interview designed not to have a discussion, but to smear. It was absolutely the right call of Bernie's to summarize his main positions, thank the interviewer, and move on--which is precisely what he did.

The only people I see trying to make a big deal out of this are extreme right-wing Trump supporters on YouTube and a few die-hard Hillary supporters on DU. Funny that.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
67. lol - no, we wouldn't want a President who says what he means
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

as opposed to the standard playbook vocabulary of saying absolutely nothing, repeatedly, until 'journalists' just get tired and decide that asking direct questions is pointless.

I see this 'not ready' theme among detractors of of Bernie Sanders and I ask myself - where is the interview reference manual that is used to assess whether a person it 'Presidential' or not? Because, apparently, one must behave in very particular ways to meet the determining set of criteria, like maintaining a certain type of posture and only publicly demonstrating displeasure with other people's behavior in a carefully poised, 'we're all pals here,' demeanor, even though the other person is rotten son of a bitch and you hate everything he/she represents.

I've never seen this manual but it appears to have been circulated extensively, as I am hearing much about how 'not ready' Bernie Sanders is to be President. There must be very specific standards for this evaluation, or else it's complete bullshit.

FailureToCommunicate

(13,989 posts)
14. This is so yesterday. You must not have even watched your own post. Bernie ends hostile interview
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:22 AM
Mar 2016

after a second 'gotcha' question. There is nothing even remotely nefarious about that.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
15. Thank you for posting this!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:26 AM
Mar 2016

It appears Bernie Sanders has come to the point where he recognizes a set up when he sees one and is mad as hell and is not going to take it anymore. He understood the situation and did what any self respecting person would have done. GO BERNIE!!!!

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
79. Absolutely, he always is
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

And not because he has to be. That is just who he is. Bernie should be our next President if we ever expect to get this country out of the ditch we appear to be in.

Cowpunk

(718 posts)
22. This reminds me of the Black Lives Matter kerfuffle
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:51 AM
Mar 2016

The headlines look bad, but when you actually watch the tape, you see "there's no there there".

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
33. Good Morning, Cha!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

So, how would the princess act if she'd been queried about Slick's bullhorning for votes at active polling stations? I mean.... if it's fair to use a spouse's activities for "got Cha".

Politicub

(12,163 posts)
26. He has become unhinged
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

I believed him when he said he wouldn't run as a third party spoiler candidate a la Nader. Now I'm not so sure with diva-like behavior such as this.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
87. Hillary would not agree to an interview except with her
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

supporters like Chris Mathews or Rachel..You know media friendly people.. (and only as George Bush would do with preapproved questions)
She has never had a interview with anyone or any Network that was not Hillary fan.
She would certainly be welcomed to answer question on "Democracy Now"
Think about that. But she refuses to go there.

bluedigger

(17,077 posts)
28. He answered the question and then ended the interview.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:04 AM
Mar 2016

Anybody with eyes and ears knows that after watching the video, however you wish to spin it. Whether or not the reporter got the time he wished to ask the questions he wanted is irrelevant.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
36. Actually, he allocated 4 minutes to the interview, when the 4 minutes was up, he left.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

It's really that simple.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
38. good for him, and weak fodder for his foes
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

not that there should be an expectation that they are aware of that

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
55. Bernie is solid gold.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

He completed what he had to say! Next question was about veep which he has answered many times. Questioner did not care about Bernie's ideas, only want to make a hit.

mdbl

(4,972 posts)
57. Really? This impunes Sanders' intergrity?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

Get a grip. The whole political system has become a sham, and Hillary is the best at it.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
58. The interviewer attempt to create a tempest in a teapot was a huge fail.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

Good for Bernie. I am glad Bernie ended the nonsense.

 

Nickel79

(81 posts)
64. The American media tries to fabricate controversy where there is none
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

and yet, they won't ask Hillary about toppling democratically-elected governments and murdering activists so our corporations can exploit their natural resources:

"The Clinton-brokered election did indeed install and legitimate a militarized regime based on repression. In the interview, Cáceres says that Clinton’s coup-government, under pressure from Washington, passed terrorist and intelligence laws that criminalized political protest. Cáceres called it 'counterinsurgency,' carried out on behalf of 'international capital'—mostly resource extractors—that has terrorized the population, murdering political activists by the high hundreds. 'Every day,' Cáceres said elsewhere, 'people are killed.'"

http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-foretold/

That should tell you everything you need to know regarding Hillary and Latinos, as well as the media's ability to trivialize the real issues while highlighting non-issues.

Generic Brad

(14,270 posts)
68. He refused to listen to the question and broke off into an abbreviated stump speech
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

What exactly was the question he answered? We'll never know because he interrupted the interviewer with a pre-canned speech.

Had this been Hillary Clinton who had done this the criticism against her would be extreme and unrelenting. "Queen Hillary shows disdain for the peasants", or some such tripe. Sanders should not get a free pass on this either. He was dismissive and rude. Definitely not one of his shining moments.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
69. Hey guess what Bernie?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

You don't get to walk off when you're President of the United States; not if you expect to have any semblance of relations with the media.

You also don't get away with launching into your unrelated stump speech when asked a question.

You also can't get away with being testy and rude, interrupting repeatedly, without getting crucified by the media. Your true believers may defend you but no one else will.

 

Nickel79

(81 posts)
75. If the media supports him, he can get away with anything.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

If they don't, what you said ends up being correct. That's the way this game works.

For example, HRC has the most checkered background of ANY candidate, and yet she's barely being scrutinized. She gets softball questions and glad-handing. How well do you think she'd do in the primaries or general if the media had any scruples and decided to scrutinize her involvement with Honduras? Never mind, we all know the answer to that one--her campaign would be dead in the water.

"The Clinton-brokered election did indeed install and legitimate a militarized regime based on repression. In the interview, Cáceres says that Clinton’s coup-government, under pressure from Washington, passed terrorist and intelligence laws that criminalized political protest. Cáceres called it 'counterinsurgency,' carried out on behalf of 'international capital'—mostly resource extractors—that has terrorized the population, murdering political activists by the high hundreds. 'Every day,' Cáceres said elsewhere, 'people are killed.'"

http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-foretold/

Not surprisingly, Berta Caceres was murdered not long after making these statements. But yeah, let's talk about "real issues" like Bernie's wife and Sheriff Joe. Distraction journalism at its best.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
76. You're kidding, right?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

You must be when you say she's "barely being scrutinized." Hillary Clinton is one of the most scrutinized candidates in modern campaign history. It started nationally when she was First Lady (anyone remember Vince Foster?) and has continued unrelentingly ever since. She was accused of murder! And vilified because she didn't divorce Bill. (If she HAD, she would have been vilified by the Right for not standing by her man like a good girl).

Bernie is getting a pass now. He would not (nor should he) if he were in the White House.

 

Nickel79

(81 posts)
78. I agree that she's been thoroughly scrutinized by a republican Congress in recent years
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

but the mainstream media has done little to fully examine the mountains of questionable material in her background. They've all but ignored recent events in Honduras, much of which was set forth by Clinton's actions as Sec. of State. They don't pin her down on plans or demand further elaboration during debates.

I could go on and on, but I think it would be pointless. You support her, and I respect that. Just don't be so blind to the obvious disparity in media coverage and scrutiny. We aren't doing her any favors if she's the nominee, because this information will NOT be suppressed when the general election rolls around.

As for Bernie, they don't have any dirt so they fabricate misinformation regarding the reasoning for an immigration reform vote, and then accuse him of having unrealistic goals. I seem to remember quite a few people saying the same about people like Martin Luther King, Jr.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
92. It wasn't only the Republican Congress
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

The "mainstream media" piled on, pushing the faux "scandal" that was Whitewater, treating the Vince Foster murder charge like it was a legitimate story, and less serious things: scrutinizing Hillary's hair, cookie baking or lack of it, she smiled too much or not enough. This woman could do nothing right. I worked for the Washington Post at the time; I know what the mindset was. Reporters were chortling in the Post cafeteria about the "fun" they were having with her as a subject. Don't tell me the media didn't fully examine her; they would have demanded a vaginal examination with them watching if they could.

BTW, If you want to compare Bernie with MLK, you're certainly free to; I strongly disagree.

 

Nickel79

(81 posts)
99. We obviously disagree, and that's perfectly okay...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:37 AM
Mar 2016

...that's what makes this country great. I'm certain we could spend hours - or even days - debating what was. HRC deserved the media attention because scandals follow her (and her husband) literally everywhere she goes, so she has no one to blame other than herself for providing the media with ammo.

All of that aside, I'm more interested in what is, and the current state of affairs surrounding the media and the democratic primary has shown me that there are few ethical journalists employed by the mainstream media. If there are, they certainly won't go against the grain of coronating HRC and ignoring Sanders. She's getting a pass, and that's part of the reason why you won't hear any mention of her and Berta Caceres in the same breath. In fact, the mainstream media is barely touching on the Caceres murder. Additionally, she's by far the biggest flip-flopper of all time in American politics, but the media is giving her a pass. Why?

Don't believe me? Listen to her own words:



That amount of flip-flopping and then lying about it is absolutely sickening. She could just say she "changed her mind," but she repeatedly makes excuses for what she's said, plays the context game, etc. She's a liar, there's no way around it.

As for your last sentence, who do you think MLK would vote for? I can tell you it's not HRC. Bernie has stood by his convictions for DECADES. He's the same guy with the same beliefs, and he's not a slave to the establishment. Does that make him presidential? Not necessarily, but he's the most honest guy on the stage by far.

Anyway, nice chatting with you Nasty. It's nice to live in a country where we can disagree and speak our minds.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
100. Good chatting with you, too, Nickel
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:51 AM
Mar 2016

You're one of the (few, on DU) reasonable Sanders supporters. I still disagree with your assessment of the media attention; however I do agree with your point of the sorry state of the media and the lack of ethical journalists!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
70. Hillary takes a few days off to take care of business and Bernie and Jane take ...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

...the opportunity to sabotage their campaign with three days of televised poor judgement and bad temper. But they are still having great big rallies!

Cowpunk

(718 posts)
93. Taking care of business indeed.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:01 PM
Mar 2016

She's back to doing what she does best-hustling the super rich to keep her super pacs running strong.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
94. To run against Trump. And I'm glad she is!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

We'll need every penny. She is raising money for the general election. But keep sending $$$ to Bernie so that he can keep making that same old stump speech.

I'm donating to Hillary because I'm interested in a Democrat in the White House.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
95. The bias of that reporter was pretty obvious
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:48 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie was gracious to even allow him four minutes of his time.

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