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Don't let the primary distract us from this day in 2003 (Original Post) alp227 Mar 2016 OP
Lest we forget monicaangela Mar 2016 #1
I remember. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2016 #2
The run up to the war... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #25
It certainly was a wake up call for me, as well Rhiannon12866 Mar 2016 #28
kicking I haven't forgot nt irisblue Mar 2016 #3
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz Uhmercan Irishman Mar 2016 #4
War Criminals. SoapBox Mar 2016 #7
I have forgotten how hillary clinton voted on iraq war. captainarizona Mar 2016 #5
All by themselves, right? All alone? Nobody else in the House or Senate did, right? Hekate Mar 2016 #10
Really? Hydra Mar 2016 #12
Yep, the war criminals and their enablers. zeemike Mar 2016 #11
Agreed, well said. downeastdaniel Mar 2016 #13
Me neither, captain az Carolina Mar 2016 #23
Elections Have Consequences, So Do Votes! corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #6
K&R Carolina Mar 2016 #24
The United States of Amnesia chapdrum Mar 2016 #8
Shock 'n' Awe! Fear 'n' Terror! "We're gonna git them over there, so they don't git us over here" Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #9
WMD's?????? shadowmayor Mar 2016 #14
Fight Them Over There when Al Quada was not even allowed to be in Iraq by its soverign government. DhhD Mar 2016 #17
Hey Shadow . . FairWinds Mar 2016 #26
Thanks shadowmayor Mar 2016 #27
IVAW does good work . . FairWinds Mar 2016 #30
Every single one of the War Mongers knew . . FairWinds Mar 2016 #15
Never so sick in our lives. Hell no, we will never forget! 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #16
A date which SHOULD live in infamy Martin Eden Mar 2016 #18
Hillary Voted To Massacre 100,000 Poor People billhicks76 Mar 2016 #19
A great victory for democracy elljay Mar 2016 #20
I went to bed early that night, thinking the war was 48 hours away. My wife said underpants Mar 2016 #21
So painful... so wrong... Oak3Tree Mar 2016 #22
only when we danced... Mika Mar 2016 #29

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
1. Lest we forget
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:46 PM
Mar 2016

I absolutely agree, we should never forget this criminal action carried out by the Bush administration.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
2. I remember.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

I was right here on DU when that happened and can vividly recall those days leading up to the invasion. That's all we were talking about back then, if and when. I remember thinking it could never happen, especially after Nelson Mandela came out with an impassioned speech condemning it which reassured me somewhat. I couldn't imagine a sitting president continuing this course in the face of world opinion against it.

But then it happened anyway, and we saw pix of "shock and awe" and I actually felt physically sick. I remember one DUer posted a photo of a little Iraqi boy pushing a tiny boat with a lighted candle on it into the water during a peace gathering and I kept thinking of that child. Was he okay? Was he afraid? That stuck in my mind and I still remember it now.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
25. The run up to the war...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:13 PM
Mar 2016

led me to question everything I thought I believed, and led me here- although I lurked a few years before joining.

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
28. It certainly was a wake up call for me, as well
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:17 AM
Mar 2016

It also changed everything I'd always believed about this country. It was the beginning of my education and I've been a skeptic ever since.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
12. Really?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:03 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton swayed the people who were skeptical at end, basically saving the Bush Admin from having to scrap the plan or do it without congressional support.

Her performance was legendary, far better than Colin Powell at the UN. She played a decisive role, and should be touted for taking such an effective stance in a foreign policy debate (disaster).

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
11. Yep, the war criminals and their enablers.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

And they all bear responsibility for the death and t that continues to this day.
And some of them want to stay in power...and it is our shame if we let them.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
23. Me neither, captain az
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:18 PM
Mar 2016

All those who had POTUS aspirations (Biden, Clinton, Dodd, Edwards, Kerry) aided and abetted the Bush cabal with their IWR aye votes, votes that were morally wrong and politically calculating. They have blood on their hands and the karma of losing their quests for POTUS... thus far. HRC may pull it off this time but Trump will surely use it against her

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
6. Elections Have Consequences, So Do Votes!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for this important reminder.

We also should remember his brave vote against this war of false choices:

http://youtube.com/embed/NdFw1btbkLM

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
8. The United States of Amnesia
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

is not interested.

The parties promulgating said state are probably clinking their glasses right about now.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
9. Shock 'n' Awe! Fear 'n' Terror! "We're gonna git them over there, so they don't git us over here"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:54 PM
Mar 2016

Be afraid, be very afraid. Spy on your neighbors. You have no privacy, so get used to it. Whistleblowers be damned, and prosecuted. Orange alert, Red alert, Fake alert! Codpeices and Golden Parachutes! Wars for Oil! We came, we saw, he died!

Ugh!

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
14. WMD's??????
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

Spent 2 Friedman Units (that's a year)in Abu Ghraib prison during OIF3 or 2005. We took that country apart. Iraq brewed beer before we invaded - that's right folks, the good ol' USA invaded an Arab nation that allowed beer to be bottled and sold and consumed. So the fawning corporate media, the criminal assholes in the Bush administration, and the rah rah somnambulistic populace who cheered and went along with the whole "fight them over there" BS meme can (as Thomas Friedman said) SUCK ON THIS!

What did the Iraqi people ever do to us?

The Shadow Mayor

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
26. Hey Shadow . .
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

I'd ask you to consider joining Veterans For Peace,

to help us see that it does not happen again.

All of us did terrible things - In my case not having the courage or brains to
say no to the insanity of Vietnam.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
27. Thanks
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:48 AM
Mar 2016

Joined IVAW as soon as I got back. I was against the war before it started, while I was there, and certainly when I got back. Got stop-lossed and cross-leveled into an MP unit as part of Rumfeld's backdoor draft. I'd signed the line and did the time as they say. Wasn't going to let some other poor slob go in my place - it's complicated. Lot's of my fellow soldiers thought I was flippin' nuts when I told them there weren't any wmd's and that Saddam and al qaeda were sworn enemies. By the end of our time in Iraq, many of them were talking to me about how fucked up the war really was and couldn't figure out why we were kicking the hell out of the Iraqi people? The Bush administration are war criminals, period.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
30. IVAW does good work . .
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

I have yet to meet a single returning vet from either Afghanistan or Iraq
who thinks they are good missions.

The national security elite seems to have lost their collective minds.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
15. Every single one of the War Mongers knew . .
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:35 PM
Mar 2016

that the entire enterprise was based on transparent lies.

As this article shows, the truth was out there and readily available to all . .

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3350402

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
16. Never so sick in our lives. Hell no, we will never forget!
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:42 PM
Mar 2016

This is painful to watch, to go back, to remember.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
18. A date which SHOULD live in infamy
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

I wept.

Four days earlier I had travelled to our nation's capitol to join 100,000 other Americans in protest against what I believed at the time was a war crime full of dire unintended consequences.

I take no joy in any I-told-you-so's.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
19. Hillary Voted To Massacre 100,000 Poor People
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:28 PM
Mar 2016

And she knew they had nothing to do with 911. I don't give a crap if Kerry did too. He is also suspicious for doing so. And people who close their eyes or cover their ears deserve no respect from anyone.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
20. A great victory for democracy
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:31 PM
Mar 2016

To be achieved in a matter of a couple of months, and to be entirely paid for by Iraq. Instead, we've enabled the creation of ISIS, which makes Saddam Hussein look like a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Bravo, USA.

underpants

(182,763 posts)
21. I went to bed early that night, thinking the war was 48 hours away. My wife said
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

"It started"

W moved up the clock because they detected $1 Billion in cash being moved on trucks. Had to move. They couldn't let the heist be short ended.

October 26, 2002 I took a train to DC to march against the war. Met several DU'ers there and we marched together. It was a misty morning at the train station and the woman who would be my wife saw me off. We both remarked that it was if I was going off to war. I'd done my time in the Army but this did feel more noble. That includes pissing all inside the Freepers port-a-potties. They closely guarded them but being a cookie cutter white guy -playing dumb- allowed me access.

The night it started I just sat there watching and knowing this was such a horrible tragic mistake.

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