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Related: About this forumDon't let the primary distract us from this day in 2003
What, nothing in the Greatest Threads about the day in 2003 that would forever affect US foreign policy, perception worldwide, budget, etc.?
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)I absolutely agree, we should never forget this criminal action carried out by the Bush administration.
Rhiannon12866
(205,161 posts)I was right here on DU when that happened and can vividly recall those days leading up to the invasion. That's all we were talking about back then, if and when. I remember thinking it could never happen, especially after Nelson Mandela came out with an impassioned speech condemning it which reassured me somewhat. I couldn't imagine a sitting president continuing this course in the face of world opinion against it.
But then it happened anyway, and we saw pix of "shock and awe" and I actually felt physically sick. I remember one DUer posted a photo of a little Iraqi boy pushing a tiny boat with a lighted candle on it into the water during a peace gathering and I kept thinking of that child. Was he okay? Was he afraid? That stuck in my mind and I still remember it now.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)led me to question everything I thought I believed, and led me here- although I lurked a few years before joining.
Rhiannon12866
(205,161 posts)It also changed everything I'd always believed about this country. It was the beginning of my education and I've been a skeptic ever since.
irisblue
(32,967 posts)Uhmercan Irishman
(16 posts)God damn them. May they all burn in Hell.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And they walk free...fat, wealthy and arrogant.
America is fucked up.
captainarizona
(363 posts)Or john kerry either.
Hekate
(90,642 posts)Hillary Clinton swayed the people who were skeptical at end, basically saving the Bush Admin from having to scrap the plan or do it without congressional support.
Her performance was legendary, far better than Colin Powell at the UN. She played a decisive role, and should be touted for taking such an effective stance in a foreign policy debate (disaster).
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And they all bear responsibility for the death and t that continues to this day.
And some of them want to stay in power...and it is our shame if we let them.
downeastdaniel
(497 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)All those who had POTUS aspirations (Biden, Clinton, Dodd, Edwards, Kerry) aided and abetted the Bush cabal with their IWR aye votes, votes that were morally wrong and politically calculating. They have blood on their hands and the karma of losing their quests for POTUS... thus far. HRC may pull it off this time but Trump will surely use it against her
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)Thanks for this important reminder.
We also should remember his brave vote against this war of false choices:
http://youtube.com/embed/NdFw1btbkLM
Carolina
(6,960 posts)Another reason (one of many) to support Bernie!
chapdrum
(930 posts)is not interested.
The parties promulgating said state are probably clinking their glasses right about now.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Be afraid, be very afraid. Spy on your neighbors. You have no privacy, so get used to it. Whistleblowers be damned, and prosecuted. Orange alert, Red alert, Fake alert! Codpeices and Golden Parachutes! Wars for Oil! We came, we saw, he died!
Ugh!
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Spent 2 Friedman Units (that's a year)in Abu Ghraib prison during OIF3 or 2005. We took that country apart. Iraq brewed beer before we invaded - that's right folks, the good ol' USA invaded an Arab nation that allowed beer to be bottled and sold and consumed. So the fawning corporate media, the criminal assholes in the Bush administration, and the rah rah somnambulistic populace who cheered and went along with the whole "fight them over there" BS meme can (as Thomas Friedman said) SUCK ON THIS!
What did the Iraqi people ever do to us?
The Shadow Mayor
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Now what? Operation Inherent Resolve.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/10/03/operations-in-iraq-and-syria-finally-to-get-a-name.html
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)I'd ask you to consider joining Veterans For Peace,
to help us see that it does not happen again.
All of us did terrible things - In my case not having the courage or brains to
say no to the insanity of Vietnam.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Joined IVAW as soon as I got back. I was against the war before it started, while I was there, and certainly when I got back. Got stop-lossed and cross-leveled into an MP unit as part of Rumfeld's backdoor draft. I'd signed the line and did the time as they say. Wasn't going to let some other poor slob go in my place - it's complicated. Lot's of my fellow soldiers thought I was flippin' nuts when I told them there weren't any wmd's and that Saddam and al qaeda were sworn enemies. By the end of our time in Iraq, many of them were talking to me about how fucked up the war really was and couldn't figure out why we were kicking the hell out of the Iraqi people? The Bush administration are war criminals, period.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)I have yet to meet a single returning vet from either Afghanistan or Iraq
who thinks they are good missions.
The national security elite seems to have lost their collective minds.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)that the entire enterprise was based on transparent lies.
As this article shows, the truth was out there and readily available to all . .
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3350402
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)This is painful to watch, to go back, to remember.
Martin Eden
(12,863 posts)I wept.
Four days earlier I had travelled to our nation's capitol to join 100,000 other Americans in protest against what I believed at the time was a war crime full of dire unintended consequences.
I take no joy in any I-told-you-so's.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)And she knew they had nothing to do with 911. I don't give a crap if Kerry did too. He is also suspicious for doing so. And people who close their eyes or cover their ears deserve no respect from anyone.
elljay
(1,178 posts)To be achieved in a matter of a couple of months, and to be entirely paid for by Iraq. Instead, we've enabled the creation of ISIS, which makes Saddam Hussein look like a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Bravo, USA.
underpants
(182,763 posts)"It started"
W moved up the clock because they detected $1 Billion in cash being moved on trucks. Had to move. They couldn't let the heist be short ended.
October 26, 2002 I took a train to DC to march against the war. Met several DU'ers there and we marched together. It was a misty morning at the train station and the woman who would be my wife saw me off. We both remarked that it was if I was going off to war. I'd done my time in the Army but this did feel more noble. That includes pissing all inside the Freepers port-a-potties. They closely guarded them but being a cookie cutter white guy -playing dumb- allowed me access.
The night it started I just sat there watching and knowing this was such a horrible tragic mistake.
Oak3Tree
(75 posts)In solidarity of remembrance.
Thanks for the post.