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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:20 AM Aug 2016

Louisiana Refuses To Take Action To Prevent KKK Members From Running For Office



David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK, is running for a Senate seat in Louisiana. The state was given the chance to prevent him and others like him from running for office this weekend, but they decided against it. The Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.
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Louisiana Refuses To Take Action To Prevent KKK Members From Running For Office (Original Post) GoLeft TV Aug 2016 OP
Whoa! Not the State, it was The Republican Party of Louisiana... IphengeniaBlumgarten Aug 2016 #1
As a comment noted before me, it was not the state itself but the Repubs anoNY42 Aug 2016 #2
I read a apoll a few months ago Ms. Yertle Aug 2016 #3
I agree anoNY42 Aug 2016 #4
Omigosh-- Ms. Yertle Aug 2016 #9
Louisiana Republicans ... IphengeniaBlumgarten Aug 2016 #8
That's the problem Ms. Yertle Aug 2016 #10
Its coming. The younger they are the more willing to give up rights. 7962 Aug 2016 #11
It scares the hell out of me that college students LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #12
Exactly. Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2016 #6
The Westboro example is the best one anoNY42 Aug 2016 #7
The Headline is Misleading and Click Bait Roy Rolling Aug 2016 #5
1. Whoa! Not the State, it was The Republican Party of Louisiana...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:37 AM
Aug 2016

I believe they (the Republicans) did try to craft a rule to prevent unwelcome candidates in the future and sort of succeeded, even. Let's not blame the whole state, thanks.

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
2. As a comment noted before me, it was not the state itself but the Repubs
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:40 AM
Aug 2016

But furthermore, why would we want the state to decide who can and cannot run for office based on (admittedly disgusting) political views?

Ms. Yertle

(466 posts)
3. I read a apoll a few months ago
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:15 AM
Aug 2016

that stated that 40% of Millennials were in favor of trashing the First Amendment to prevent offending minorities.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/

While I think we can all agree that hate speech is repugnant, it is chilling to me that one of our most basic rights is in danger.

It would not surprise me at all that some would want the government to hand select who can and cannot run for office. The trouble is, that kind of thing can turn around and bite you on the ass big time, when the shoe is on the other foot.

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
4. I agree
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:42 AM
Aug 2016

However, I don't take too much stock in that polling of millennials. I remember when I was in my 20's I was an idiot (not that that has changed much!).

I bet most of the folks who said they would change the 1st Amendment will change their own minds first.

Ms. Yertle

(466 posts)
9. Omigosh--
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:47 PM
Aug 2016

I shudder when I think of how stupid I was when I was in my 20's!

I've always found it ironic that we are expected to make the most important decisions of our lives--education, career, marriages--when we are the dumbest we will ever be!!!

8. Louisiana Republicans ...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:33 PM
Aug 2016

have not tried to restrict who can run for office. What they wanted to do was to have control over who could run ***as a Republican***. A sizable group of them felt Duke was making the party look bad. However they were unable to figure out a way to limit the use of the Republican label that enough party members would vote for such a rule.

Ms. Yertle

(466 posts)
10. That's the problem
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

People can label themselves with whatever political label they choose. The clown who founded the Westboro Baptist Church, for instance, calls himself a Dem. How can either party be exclusive enough to make sure their members adhere to their value.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. Its coming. The younger they are the more willing to give up rights.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:49 PM
Aug 2016

You already see it on college campuses. A LOT of them. Ban someone you dont like.

LuvNewcastle

(16,838 posts)
12. It scares the hell out of me that college students
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 09:17 PM
Sep 2016

are so ignorant about the Constitution. What are they being taught in college these days?

I'm pretty sure that it's unconstitutional to ban someone from running for office because he is a member of a hate group, and I think Congress would have to pass a bill barring felons from office and the President would have to sign it. Then the SCOTUS would have to determine if the law was constitutional or not.

Political parties might be able to ban felons from running for their party's nomination for an office. It seems to me that that would be kind of a tricky gray area. I don't think, however, that a state would be able to determine the qualifications for a federal office. We've had plenty of bigots run for federal office before and some of them have won. It's disgusting, but it seems totally legal to me. It scares me more that there are so many people who seem to have no regard for the Constitution and think we can just make up the rules as we go along.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
6. Exactly.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:57 AM
Aug 2016

Someone, I think it was Louis Brandeis, said that the freedom of speech means nothing if it does not include the right to say the unpopular thing.

I am thinking of the Supreme Court case of Snyder v. Phelps, 562 U.S. 443 (2011), which was about the Westboro Baptist Church picketing a funeral. The court held that while what the Westboro people said was offensive in the extreme, they had the right to say it.

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
7. The Westboro example is the best one
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:21 PM
Aug 2016

because of the reaction they always cause. When those fools come to town to express their opinions, you really see communities rally around whoever they target. It's quite heartening...

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
5. The Headline is Misleading and Click Bait
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

Louisiana was smart enough to elect a Democratic governor John Bel Edwards. This headline says "Louisiana refuses" and then in the "fine print" says "Louisiana Republicans".

It's a cheap shot. It is Louisiana bashing under the disguise of Republican bashing. Only kooks take David Duke seriously, and broadcasters who continue to take him seriously and give him free publicity are the problem.

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