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EarlG

(21,894 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:13 AM Aug 2016

Pic Of The Moment: Trump Travelling To Mexico Today



Donald Trump to Visit Mexico After More Than a Year of Mocking It


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BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
1. So I don't understand. How is a "wall" different from a fence?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:16 AM
Aug 2016

Trump keeps droning on about his great wall. But we already have a fence.

And yes, I know that the fence isn't perfect. But people can climb over walls too.

I have probably heard Trump's wall claim 25 times and I haven't heard a single media person ask how this is different from a fence.

And I also have not heard anybody ask how a wall will block the majority of undocumented people who got here by simply overstaying a valid visa.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
3. The border is 1989 miles long and the majority is not barrier fenced. The terrain
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:29 AM
Aug 2016

and climate is a natural barrier in some places and, in this day and age, electronic surveillance (possibly including satellite-based) with rapid response capability makes more sense. A physical wall only makes sense to a real estate developer who would make money building it and those he can con into paying for it.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. And something that idiots don't realize...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:24 PM
Aug 2016

is that some animals do migrate across the border in both directions. What do we do about them?

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
16. Not to even mention desert washes that cannot be blocked. The design and engineering alone would
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:28 PM
Aug 2016

be a monumental task taking years and costing tens of millions.

tclambert

(11,080 posts)
12. Because the wall is SURE to work.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:05 PM
Aug 2016

Mexican immigrants will never, ever be able to figure out how to climb over a wall. It's impossible. So, illegal immigration solved. Next problem.


Seriously, just like the fence, it's a purely symbolic attempt by Republicans to solve a serious problem without giving it serious thought, and without really trying to address the problem.

If you want a simple solution to illegal immigration, how about this? Make it a $1 million dollar fine to employ an illegal immigrant, per occurrence. So a casino owner in Atlantic City who got caught employing 100 illegals would pay $100 million in fines. That might bankrupt the business (if mismanagement by the dilettante who built the place hadn't already done so).

Friend or Foe

(195 posts)
13. "The Wall" was an amazing rock opera by Pink Floyd...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:45 PM
Aug 2016

"The Fence"........... i don't know.........a late night infomercial?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. Maybe that was part of the plan...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:23 PM
Aug 2016

"Hey, I'm coming to Mexico" and wait to see how fast they build it

ffr

(22,649 posts)
4. Quick, someone call in a bomb scare at the Mexican airport
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 11:37 AM
Aug 2016

where Drumpf's plan is. Stall them at all costs.

"Hurry men, keep working!!"

lostnfound

(16,138 posts)
5. Walls and fences are so damn primitive anyway
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:06 PM
Aug 2016

Based on the "other". And there's a whole lot of people BORN here who are more "other" than the Mexicans coming across the border.

If it's to prevent employment competition, then why isn't there a similar effort to stop US companies moving jobs and factories to Mexico?

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
6. Shortly after 9-11-01, some unscrupulous politicians conflated the issues of border SECURITY
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:23 PM
Aug 2016

and undocumented immigrants, many of whom have been coming here to work for decades and decades.

We obviously need to do what we can to prevent those that would do us harm from entering our country anywhere, not only our southern border. Even a 100% secure southern border would just encourage the truly bad guys to enter elsewhere. Regarding drug trafficking, it would only serve to INCREASE both the dominance and profit of the most powerful cartels.

The issues are far too complex for a focus diverting and money-wasting wall to solve.

PatSeg

(46,804 posts)
8. That is a good point
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

The last company I worked for had employees from New Zealand, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Vietnam, etc. People from all over the world come here to work, visit, or go to school. This whole "Mexican" issue is just politics. Republicans win elections by cultivating fear and hate.

Ford_Prefect

(7,828 posts)
11. I just want 4 sections of that fence set 90 degrees to each other at the bottom of Trump's ramp
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:05 PM
Aug 2016

and a quick lesson in welding.

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