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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts) Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:20 AM Sep 2012

Ryan Claims 'Going to Funerals' part of his Foreign Policy experience - Oh Palin!



It's scary to watch and think this sophomoric gym-rat would be a heartbeat away from the Presidency if elected to the White House. Apparently pushing a button to cast a vote in Congress amounts to extensive experience.

When questioned about his claims of having more experience in Foreign Policy than Obama, Paul Ryan defensively notes 'I Voted to send men and women to war' (for pete's sake-- ed.)

In his list of Foreign Policy experience, he includes his field trips to Iraq and Afghanistan, going to funerals, and speaking with family members of soldiers ALL as part of the reason he has more experience than Obama in Foreign Policy.

Really?

This is not a joke. This was from his appearance on Face the Nation this past Sunday. Paul Ryan is not only DANGEROUSLY UNQUALIFIED to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, his running mate Mitt Romney can't even handle a friendly trip to the UK without offending the entire country.

After watching this, I could only help but think of one thing...

... the fateful moment when Sarah Palin noted her OWN foreign policy experience by proudly proclaiming how she could see Russia from Alaska. I think someone needs to remind the GOP that if they truly loved their country, they wouldn't put such complete and utter failures up as candidates to potentially act as caretakers for the United States of America, it's Constitution, and centuries of principles.

There are no words when you see what stupidity lies in the Party of Reagan.

No words.

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Ryan Claims 'Going to Funerals' part of his Foreign Policy experience - Oh Palin! (Original Post) tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 OP
Read this - especially the bolded paragraph ... Tx4obama Sep 2012 #1
that's some excellent detail left out of her quick intro to his experience - thanks tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #3
"Did I forget to mention I was high-school champ of Diplomacy?" rock Sep 2012 #16
Did he forget to mention he was voted Most Cha Sep 2012 #24
Youbetcha! DJ13 Sep 2012 #29
text cut off from end of clip tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #2
He's just another glory boy who is elevated by the GOP because of his WCGreen Sep 2012 #4
I went to Austria to attend my uncle's funeral. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #5
If I were POTUS Wilz Sep 2012 #6
The transcript can be found here Mutt22 Sep 2012 #7
thanks for the full transcript - very helpful tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #17
You're welcome Mutt22 Sep 2012 #21
so just to clarify Heather MC Sep 2012 #8
Talk about; greiner3 Sep 2012 #9
"Going to funerals" is relevant to his foreign policy plans! jberryhill Sep 2012 #10
why is he bragging about sending young people to war? Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #11
That's good. Because he'll be a part of one on the first Wednesday in November...... marble falls Sep 2012 #12
He ends with "That's something" VWolf Sep 2012 #13
Actually I think that when Daddy Bush was vice-president... LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #14
yuk! heaven05 Sep 2012 #15
What's scary amuse bouche Sep 2012 #18
when ignorance lies this boldy, you know it's Republican tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #19
Paul Ryan BrainMann1 Sep 2012 #20
I'll bet he even eats at an Italian restaurant or sends out for pizza several times a month aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #22
Amazing how the Repub candidates are going out of their way to prove how lumpy Sep 2012 #23
The funny thing is Mutt22 Sep 2012 #25
ouch! tomm2thumbs Sep 2012 #31
Did he see Russia when he went to funerals? matt819 Sep 2012 #26
He is probably going to be one of the phelps demonstrators protesting at funerals. jwirr Sep 2012 #27
Mean Jean Schmidt voted for war too riverwalker Sep 2012 #28
in total agreement: unskilled and trying to make-believe suzanner Sep 2012 #30
Can he see Afghanistan from his house? HopeHoops Sep 2012 #32

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. Read this - especially the bolded paragraph ...
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:39 AM
Sep 2012


Paul Ryan Falsely Claims that He Has More Foreign Policy Experience than Obama

-snip-

Paul Ryan claimed today that he has more foreign policy experience that President Obama had in 2008, but a look at the congressional committees that each served on tells a vastly different story.

-snip-

Paul Ryan claimed that voting for the invasion of Iraq based on the WMD gives him more foreign policy experience than Barack Obama had before he took office, but a look at the respective congressional committee assignments of Obama and Ryan tells a vastly different story.

When Barack Obama was in the Senate, he served on the Foreign Relations, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, and as s chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee’s Subcommittee on European Affairs. During roughly the same period in the House, Paul Ryan served on the House Committee on Budget, House Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee on Social Security, Joint Economic Committee, and the Subcommittee on Select Revenue Measures. Paul Ryan did not serve on a single foreign policy committee or subcommittee while Obama was in the Senate.

What is most troubling is that everything Paul Ryan listed as foreign policy experience is related to going to war, and that he seems to have taken the wrong lesson from those experiences. Ryan actually listed voting for a war based on a lie as a good thing. Ryan didn’t discuss diplomacy, treaties, or any international agreements that he voted on. To Paul Ryan foreign policy equals war, and this little insight into the hidden corner of his neo-con mind should give voters pause.

The fact of the matter is that based on congressional training alone, Barack Obama was more prepared to deal with foreign policy questions when he was elected in 2008 than Paul Ryan is in 2012.

-snip-

Video, transcript and full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/lyin-paul-ryan-claims-voting-wmds-iraq.html




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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
3. that's some excellent detail left out of her quick intro to his experience - thanks
Reply to Tx4obama (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:50 AM
Sep 2012

not to mention that it is embarrassingly and vastly different than his 'playing soldier boy' by pushing a button that sent OTHERS into harm's way.

He acted so holier-than-though when he told Nora that.

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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
2. text cut off from end of clip
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:47 AM
Sep 2012

'... That matters. I take this very seriously. I've been doing this for 14 years.'

Sorry clip was trimmed that way, but wanted to clarify as it was cut short and some may wonder what he started to say at the end. The host goes on to ask a different question after that.

No doubt stunned by his stupidity.





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WCGreen

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4. He's just another glory boy who is elevated by the GOP because of his
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:56 AM
Sep 2012

looks and his ability to raise money.

He's not likable at all. At least Mitt looks and acts like he could have a good time but this putz, not so much.

And if he is the brains of the outfit, well he God bless him.

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Spitfire of ATJ

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5. I went to Austria to attend my uncle's funeral.
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:07 AM
Sep 2012

I guess now I can claim I know all about foreign policy in Europe.

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Mutt22

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7. The transcript can be found here
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:55 AM
Sep 2012
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57509126/face-the-nation-transcripts-september-9-2012-obama-ryan-plouffe/?pageNum=3&tag=contentMain;contentBody


O'DONNELL: Can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than Senator Obama did? He was on the foreign relations committee. What is your foreign policy experience?

RYAN: I've been in congress for 14 years. He was in the senate for far, far less time that that. I voted-- you know, Norah, I voted to send men and women to war. I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan. I've met with our troops to get their perspectives. I've been to the funerals. I've talked to the widows. I've talked to the wives, the moms and dads. That's something. That matters.

I take this very seriously. I've done doing this for 14 years.
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tomm2thumbs

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17. thanks for the full transcript - very helpful
Reply to Mutt22 (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:12 PM
Sep 2012

Oh the irony of saying 'I take this very seriously' and then spouting off with such nonsense about why he is the better man on foreign policy experience

his Tea Party ignorance is on full display in those words - in black and white!

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Mutt22

(76 posts)
21. You're welcome
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Reply #17)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:20 PM
Sep 2012

I knew it would be helpful to have for when people run up against supporters of his who would claim he was taken out of context or some other B.S. claim.

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Heather MC

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8. so just to clarify
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:01 AM
Sep 2012

Paul Ryan voted for war

Paul Ryan went to a war zone

and Paul Ryan went to the funeral of the soldiers he sent to die

and that's his experience
yikes!

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Voice for Peace

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11. why is he bragging about sending young people to war?
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:36 AM
Sep 2012

he says it as if we should gasp in wonder at his awesomeness.

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LeftishBrit

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14. Actually I think that when Daddy Bush was vice-president...
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:33 AM
Sep 2012

it was said that his main job was to attend the funerals of foreign leaders. Someone described his foreign policy as 'You Die, I Fly'.

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heaven05

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15. yuk!
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
Sep 2012

I can't even listen to this dribble. Every time I look at him I just go the other way. Does he really believe this? How did america sink this low, not to mention the Republican Party of Eisenhower. Some americans are going to give this clown their vote. What a waste of humanity. SAD!

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tomm2thumbs

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19. when ignorance lies this boldy, you know it's Republican
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:49 PM
Sep 2012

the Party of Lies outdoes itself with this would-be Emperor

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BrainMann1

(460 posts)
20. Paul Ryan
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

was the GOP's dream boy. He was suppose to come in and set the record straight on the economy and deficit. Well from the beginning he was told he lied about OBAMA CARE, WOMENS RIGHT ON CONTRACEPTIVES AND MEDICARE etc. etc. He had to explain these things and lied about it. The GOP was not prepared and never caught up.

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aint_no_life_nowhere

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22. I'll bet he even eats at an Italian restaurant or sends out for pizza several times a month
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sep 2012

and enters into intense diplomatic negotiations with chef Luigi in the kitchen over how "al dente" he wants his pasta.

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lumpy

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23. Amazing how the Repub candidates are going out of their way to prove how
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:44 PM
Sep 2012

ignorant they are. First time in US history we have had unschooled political candidates leading/representing the ignorant masses.

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Mutt22

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25. The funny thing is
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:34 PM
Sep 2012

I posted this video on Facebook as well as a link to the transcript and not one of my Republican friends commented. Usually they will try to dispute a post I make about Rmoney or Ryan, nothing but silence.

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tomm2thumbs

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31. ouch!
Reply to Mutt22 (Reply #25)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:05 AM
Sep 2012

I guess he spoke volumes, in not speaking volumes about his experience

mouths of babes, and all that...

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matt819

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26. Did he see Russia when he went to funerals?
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sep 2012

It just keeps getting better, doesn't it?

I can't wait to see the political cartoons.

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suzanner

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30. in total agreement: unskilled and trying to make-believe
Reply to tomm2thumbs (Original post)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:00 PM
Sep 2012

I used to read several similar exposures on Condi Rice, who's only qualification was writing a book on Russia which most other scholars in the field of study said was not very good or accurate. I doubt it's on any curriculum besides her own classes (if she hasn't retired). Padding the resume.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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