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Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 01:10 AM Sep 2020

Mary Trump: 'Deeply Delusional' That Donald Trump Has Been Treated Unfairly His Whole Life - MSNBC



Mary Trump, Donald Trump’s niece, joins Lawrence O’Donnell to explain why it’s so “unpleasant” to hear her uncle “play the victim” when he’s been given advantages and privileges his whole life. Aired on 09/17/2020.



Mary Trump: ‘Nobody Tells As Many Lies On Purpose’ As Pres. Trump - The Last Word - MSNBC



Mary Trump, Donald Trump’s niece, joins Lawrence O’Donnell to explain how Donald Trump’s lies are “dangerous” and why he should be fact-checked in real time, especially on the debate stage. Aired on 09/17/2020.

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madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
1. That was a good interview.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 01:17 AM
Sep 2020

She is invited often on these shows now. She has a charming personality and has interesting things to say.

Her book was excellent.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
2. I agree, I'm actually watching the replay right now
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 01:48 AM
Sep 2020

She really does have some important insights and has gotten a lot more comfortable since her initial interviews. And I agree about her book, she grew up in closer proximity to her father's family than most, seems like they were always expected to spend every occasion at "the house." I have the book on audio, listen to it in my car, and just today I sat in my car in the driveway, listening to her talking about when her father died. Her grandfather displayed no emotion from what she said (even when her aunt collapsed) and was still absolutely in charge, despite Mary and her Mom and brother. Heartbreaking.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
3. Mary is so different from the rest of the family.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 02:05 AM
Sep 2020

Her aunts, uncles, cousins all have very different values than she has.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. I am really impressed with her.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:52 AM
Sep 2020

She is so down to earth and straightforward. So unlike a Trump. I wish we could see and hear more of her instead of her vile lying, grifting family members. I honestly feel sorry for her having to grow up with people like that. I hope she has a solid support network around her.

Thanks for posting, Rhiannon!

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
5. I have her book on audio which I listen to in my car - and she is the one who reads it
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:00 AM
Sep 2020

It sounds like her father, the eldest son, didn't fit in with what his autocratic father expected for him, and it actually ruined his life. From what she's said, he sounds like he was a decent guy, with hobbies and friends, unlike Donald - and that he genuinely loved his 2 kids. Though she grew up obligated to her grandfather, like all of them were, she sounds like she turned out all right - which can't have been easy. And she sounds quite intelligent and insightful as well, though it must have taken quite a bit for her to speak up and go public with all she knows.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. It seems like her father was the only decent one in the family, which is probably why
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:16 AM
Sep 2020

he had a hard time coping with life. I feel really sorry for him. I read her book as well and I got the impression that to be a decent human being in the Trump family was to be a failure.

It was actually a very sad story and it's unfortunate that a sociopath like Donald came out to be know as the "successful" one. I am really glad she told the story of the family, because it explains a lot.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
7. I agree that her Dad sounded "normal" and a pretty nice guy, he just had his own interests
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:33 AM
Sep 2020

Which were unacceptable in that autocratic family. I had a doctor's appointment today (mammogram ) and I sat in the driveway listening since she was telling about what happened when her father died. It sure sounds like he was neglected in his illness and it was handled abysmally! The grandfather and Donald refused to grant his wishes even after death! Just awful. And the poor middle sister collapsed by his coffin and they ignored her until they finally hauled her out of the room. Mary and her brother are fortunate to be as normal as they are, sounds like everyone in that family was under the control of that monster of a grandfather - and it says a lot about Donald that he was the one who "fit in..."

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Oh, how awful. I forgot about the middle sister. How sad.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:42 AM
Sep 2020

Just so much tragedy all around, yet Donald did not perceive any of it because he was too self absorbed. It just makes me feel so awful for Mary and her brother to have had to go through their father's death in such a cold and heartless family. It must have been a nightmare for them.

Hope your mamogram went ok.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
9. Yes, the poor middle sister, Elizabeth, sounds like she hasn't had much of a life
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:53 AM
Sep 2020

Despite having come from such a wealthy family. It sounds like the only one that the grandfather spent any money on - and he had so much, but pinched pennies - was Donald. The poor eldest sister put herself through school and depended on her mother giving her the apartment laundromat change so she could feed herself and her son! At least Mary and her brother were allowed some distance, thanks to her parents, yet even after they were divorced her mother was still expected at his parents for family holidays!

And the mammogram was okay, I was just overdue for one, so I had to get up unbearably early for me and those are never comfortable.

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
10. "Treated Unfairly His Whole Life "
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 07:12 AM
Sep 2020

Right out of the conservative playbook.. When all else fails, play the victim. You are attacking me so I just HAVE to attack you...
m
4 point deception
“Point one, lie. Or at least recollect differently,”
“Point two, discredit the investigation,”
“Point three, muddy the waters to confuse ,” then use misleading claims back to point one..
“Finally, point four, paint as a victim."


tanyev

(42,552 posts)
11. As long as there's even one person out there criticizing him for anything at all,
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:25 AM
Sep 2020

he's going to whine about being treated unfairly.

cp

(6,625 posts)
12. Excellent interview
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:33 PM
Sep 2020

Her book is a must-read, and helps us collectively break out of this abusive relationship, as she has done in her family. I am SO looking forward to the time I no longer hear him, see him, or am subject to his malevolent incompetence.
She is giving a great gift to our country.
Thank you for posting this.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
14. You and me both!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:32 AM
Sep 2020

Back in 2016, I couldn't wait for the campaign to be over so I wouldn't have to see or hear him again! I have Mary Trump's book on audio (read by Mary, herself), have been listening to it in my car. Yesterday I had to go out and sat outside listening to the part where her father died and was horrified at the reactions and attitude of his father and Donald. All she had to say in the book must have been tough for her to relive, but also (as a psychologist) a way to work through it. And she did a great public service by sharing all she did. I agree that everyone should read it.

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