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Iggo

(47,537 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:22 PM Jan 2019

Levi's 517 Boot Cut Jeans.

I just got some delivered, and they're different than what I'm used to.

The material is soft and thin, and they're missing the white label from the inside at the belt line in the back that says "Boot Cut".

Is this how they make them now? Or is this another, I dunno, sub-style, and I ordered the wrong ones?

Any old stoners or cowboys able to enlighten me on this?

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Levi's 517 Boot Cut Jeans. (Original Post) Iggo Jan 2019 OP
I gave up on Levis a decade (or more?) ago Kali Jan 2019 #1
I've been wearing the Wrangler straight legs for a few years now. Iggo Jan 2019 #13
I wore bell bottoms until they stopped making them Kali Jan 2019 #14
LOL @ women's pants "pockets". Iggo Jan 2019 #15
I despise women's clothes. Kali Jan 2019 #18
They suck now! Have a friend who worked for Levi's before they started manufacturing offshore. Floyd R. Turbo Jan 2019 #2
Cutting costs affects products benld74 Jan 2019 #3
Only five belt loops, I suppose. Harrumph. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #4
Are you sure they're legitimately Levis? ailsagirl Jan 2019 #5
Actually, I'm not sure at all. Iggo Jan 2019 #6
Still like Levis, but all the styles have changed. They fit and feel a bit different, but I still Hoyt Jan 2019 #7
I agree Bayard Jan 2019 #8
Tractor Supply. I'll check them out. Iggo Jan 2019 #17
I get my bib overals there Yonnie3 Jan 2019 #21
Beats me. I'm a Wrangler guy. Paladin Jan 2019 #9
I wear Wrangler straight legs. But for boot cut I've always gone Levi's 517. Iggo Jan 2019 #10
$29.95! Ernesto Jan 2019 #11
Gave up on Levis a long time ago. I like Urban Pipeline bif Jan 2019 #12
I'll check out Urban Pipeline. Iggo Jan 2019 #16
Might I suggest you try a thrift store? Grammy23 Jan 2019 #19
I sup-po-o-o-ose....? Iggo Jan 2019 #23
That's what washing machines and dry cleaners are for. Grammy23 Jan 2019 #24
I'm with ya, Grammy23! True Dough Jan 2019 #26
I have a friend who shops in a thrift shop on the edge of Beverly Hills fierywoman Jan 2019 #29
We were going on a cruise to Alaska to celebrate my husband's and my retirement. Grammy23 Jan 2019 #30
I love it !!! (Big congrats to you on the 25 years -- and many more, girl, and many more ...) fierywoman Jan 2019 #34
20 The Non_Evil Damien Jan 2019 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Jan 2019 #22
Does the material stretch? I was trying some on recently and they are stretchy. FSogol Jan 2019 #25
No, thank gawd, they're not the stretchy kind. Iggo Jan 2019 #35
Goodwill and thrift stores Hela Jan 2019 #27
Perhaps you inadvertently bought knock-offs... TwistOneUp Jan 2019 #28
I did as you suggested. Iggo Jan 2019 #31
You did great! TwistOneUp Jan 2019 #32
Oh, I'll wear them. They fit perfectly. Iggo Jan 2019 #33
Gave up on Levi's a long time ago. GoneOffShore Jan 2019 #36

Iggo

(47,537 posts)
13. I've been wearing the Wrangler straight legs for a few years now.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jan 2019

They're cheap and tough enough for day to day suburbanism.

But for my reals, I've always worn Levi's boot cut, all the way back to when they had the orange tag and they were called "flairs."

I've had two real good pairs for about twenty-ish years and it looks like I missed the transition from quality to caca.

Kali

(55,004 posts)
14. I wore bell bottoms until they stopped making them
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jan 2019

then switched to 501s for a long time but the price got rediculous while the quality went to shit. found Dickies at a now defunct discount store for a few years @ $10. now wranglers or no name brands when I find them. or -horrors- women's jeans, which may look a little better but cost more, have useless pockets, button/zip wrong and suck for actual work.

Iggo

(47,537 posts)
15. LOL @ women's pants "pockets".
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jan 2019

My SIL has a two year old kid, and she's mad because he gets regular pockets, but hers are like an inch deep.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,545 posts)
2. They suck now! Have a friend who worked for Levi's before they started manufacturing offshore.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:38 PM
Jan 2019

Apparently only one style comes from each plant to keep costs down. Additionally, the operators are under constant pressure to improve margins resulting in lousy quality.

Only the 501s are still made stateside.

benld74

(9,901 posts)
3. Cutting costs affects products
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jan 2019

Levi now doing too I guess
I’ve been out of them since college days

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Still like Levis, but all the styles have changed. They fit and feel a bit different, but I still
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jan 2019

like them. Really like the lighter weight used in some of the styles, and black or gray colors. Blue is just too common. Especially like the corduroy when it gets cooler. Also, now they add a little spandex or something similar to most styles to help hold shape.

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
8. I agree
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:57 PM
Jan 2019

Hard to find a decent pair of jeans these days that aren't paper thin, and hit below your naval. I've bought my last couple of working-around-the-farm jeans from Tractor Supply, men's. $12.

Yonnie3

(17,422 posts)
21. I get my bib overals there
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jan 2019

I've found them comfortable and reasonably durable. They are a return to my rural youth. We were never allowed to wear them to school, but summers in an old cut off pair with no shirt were great.

I haven't bought jeans there yet.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
9. Beats me. I'm a Wrangler guy.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jan 2019

Been wearing Wranglers for decades; they just fit better than Levis. And they're still made well.

Iggo

(47,537 posts)
10. I wear Wrangler straight legs. But for boot cut I've always gone Levi's 517.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:36 PM
Jan 2019

The Levi's are a tougher pair of jeans and they last for fucking ever...almost.

(The ones I'm replacing are about twenty years old.)

bif

(22,685 posts)
12. Gave up on Levis a long time ago. I like Urban Pipeline
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jan 2019

from Kohl's. They fit much better and are cheaper as well.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
19. Might I suggest you try a thrift store?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Make no mistake, thrift stores come in all varieties from totally sleezy to high end, upscale. My a Daughter-in-law discovered that by going to thrift stores located near upscale neighborhoods she could find really nice clothes for a fair price. She found a pair of Sperry Top siders (still with a tag) for $2.00! So you might find some Levis that are the cut and style you want. And at a decent price! Happy shopping!

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
24. That's what washing machines and dry cleaners are for.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jan 2019

There are deals out there if you just go look. Then bring them home and wash ‘em or send to the dry cleaner. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
26. I'm with ya, Grammy23!
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:11 PM
Jan 2019

I buy most clothes new (only after the existing ones are practically threadbare) but when my wife goes to the thrift store, I'll join her once in a while to check out the jeans. Sometimes I leave empty-handed. Sometimes I buy a pair or two of high-quality jeans that are still in great shape for cheap.

Sometimes you have to hem them because the waist size is right but the leg is too long, but that's the challenge of used-clothes shopping.

And I'd advise anyone to double-check any used clothing item before making the purchase. There are sometimes subtle tears or stains that can disappoint you when you get home, if you don't look carefully.

But it's well worth the effort, IMO.

fierywoman

(7,673 posts)
29. I have a friend who shops in a thrift shop on the edge of Beverly Hills
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jan 2019

and he finds his husband Armani suits for like $5 !

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
30. We were going on a cruise to Alaska to celebrate my husband's and my retirement.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 10:54 PM
Jan 2019

Also 25 years as a breast cancer survivor! Yay me! My husband needed a new suit and since he rarely needs one, he did not want to pay a huge amount for it. We went out puttering in a thrift store shortly before the cruise and found a very nice, dark suit in good condition. It was a Joseph A. Bank suit with low mileage. Marked $29.95, which was a little high for a thrift store but since it was nice, exactly the right size and style he needed, we got it. We sent it to the dry cleaner and I bought him a new dress shirt and tie at TJ Maxx. He sure looked spiffy on Dress Up night and we got many a laugh knowing where we got his suit.

Everybody’s crazy ‘bout a sharp dressed man! 🎼🤵🏼🕶 😉

Response to The Non_Evil Damien (Reply #20)

FSogol

(45,456 posts)
25. Does the material stretch? I was trying some on recently and they are stretchy.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:56 PM
Jan 2019

They have a lot of slim fit ones for the millennials who want their legs to look like toothpicks or golf tees. No thanks.

I order my online from Kohls (501, button flys with a straight leg) since they don't carry them in the stores.

Iggo

(47,537 posts)
35. No, thank gawd, they're not the stretchy kind.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:31 AM
Jan 2019

I'd've sent them right back if that was the case.

Hela

(440 posts)
27. Goodwill and thrift stores
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

are a great resource for gently used favorite and vintage brands. I have found some real gems. But it can take time to look through the racks.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
28. Perhaps you inadvertently bought knock-offs...
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:56 PM
Jan 2019

My suggestion is to re-read the item description on the site where you bought them and see if it matches whatcha got.

Levi's are made in China, right? Where they have "shadow factories"?

Also, tags are not popular anymore, as many vendors print the information on fabric. None of my fruit Of The Loom panties have tags, as all info is printed on back of panty at waistline.

Iggo

(47,537 posts)
31. I did as you suggested.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:11 PM
Jan 2019

I went to the JCPenney website to retrace my steps.

Here's the description:

Levi's® 517™ Bootcut Jeans
allman: sits at waist (I didn't order allman)
classic slim fit through seat and thigh
bootcut leg, 18¼" opening
indigo flex: cotton/polyester (I didn't order indigo flex)
ficus and allman: 98% cotton, 2% elastane (I didn't order ficus or allman)
other colors: 100% cotton
washable
imported

Nothing there of note besides the magic word "imported."

However, in recreating my order I now notice that, for the size I chose, it steered me away from "Rigid" to something called "Rinse." I'm not sure if that's the problem, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Still, maybe they just make 'em thinner now.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
32. You did great!
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jan 2019

One can only wonder which country/-ies could be referred to by the term, "imported". Methinks any country besides the USA.

Most fabric is measured by weight per fixed unit of measure (e.g., square yard). So, unless they specify, for example, "21oz 100% cotton pre-washed denim", you pretty much get what they give you and if you don't like it, return it.

Iggo

(47,537 posts)
33. Oh, I'll wear them. They fit perfectly.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:21 PM
Jan 2019

I'm just disappointed they aren't as thick as I'd like, and there's no way they're going to last ten years, let alone twenty like my last pair.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
36. Gave up on Levi's a long time ago.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 06:07 AM
Jan 2019

Gap 1969 and Uniqlo have great jeans, though not over size 44 waist for Gap and size 42 for Uniqlo.

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