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Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:38 PM Mar 2013

Spanish, or French? Or maybe Italian? Opinions, please.

OK, I've started teaching myself Russian, but my free time just got drastically curtailed and I'm going to have to put it on the back burner for a while. I know the alphabet and can sound out words, and am going to make sure I don't forget it while I'm having to do other things.

However, I am DETERMINED to learn another language. Even if all I do at first is listen to some online classes, or Internet radio, or whatever.

I studied French for 4 years in high school, but never got immersed in the language and never became fluent.
I studied Spanish for one semester in high school, but grew up in SoCal and got a lot of exposure as a kid to the language.
I studied Italian in college for 1.5 years.

So, I have a pretty good basis in Romance languages.

Now, Spanish is obviously the choice where I'd get the most use, and most practice in the U.S. - it would be easy for me to practice with a lot of the people I see every day. The benefits of speaking Spanish are huge and obvious.

French I have the most background in, but I can't think of a single person I know who's fluent so practicing with others wouldn't be too easy. I also can never get over the sensation that I'm mimicking Inspector Clouseau (the one, the only Peter Sellers) when I speak French.

Italian is just so damn fun, and beautiful, but again, practice wouldn't be easy, and overall universal applicability isn't high as I don't see myself living in Italy or really having an opportunity to speak it often. Same with French.

Now, German is another option because a good friend is German and lives in my town, but I don't have any education in the fundamentals, so it might fall into the category of my Russian efforts, which is, it's too much effort right now given my time constraints.

So, anyone have any suggestions? Tell me what you'd do. And bonus points if you can point me to (free) online language tutorials so I can listen while I'm busy doing the things I now am required to spend my time on ....



Thanks for any input!


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Spanish, or French? Or maybe Italian? Opinions, please. (Original Post) Flaxbee Mar 2013 OP
Spanish because you can actually put it to use. OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #1
thank you! Have googled; will explore Flaxbee Mar 2013 #5
French because it's rapidly growing world wide. GoneOffShore Mar 2013 #2
Hmm, I wouldn't have thought it was a growing language; as the Flaxbee Mar 2013 #6
Estonian, because then you can brag about knowing an obscure language. malthaussen Mar 2013 #3
Nah, that's where my Russian will come in. :) Flaxbee Mar 2013 #7
What a delightful dilemna! Italian is utterly beautiful to listen to but so is French Rowdyboy Mar 2013 #4
see, I feel compelled to go with Spanish, but I could probably get to fluency in French Flaxbee Mar 2013 #8
Any of those Xyzse Mar 2013 #9
thanks - looks like a neat service Flaxbee Mar 2013 #15
Yep! Xyzse Mar 2013 #16
Spanish, because of why you said plus it keeps you grounded with your other romance languages. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #10
I agree. It's just never been my first choice, even though it is the most LOGICAL choice Flaxbee Mar 2013 #17
you sound like me ... but, honestly Flaxbee, you will USE the Spanish - Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #20
I know. Which is why I'd pretty much decided on Spanish, but with French a close Flaxbee Mar 2013 #21
Does anyone know if the Spanish that is taught in American schools is the Spanish hedgehog Mar 2013 #11
Spain Spanish, usually. a la izquierda Mar 2013 #12
depends on the instructor Kali Mar 2013 #22
I think the top priority would be Spanish and the second would be French.. RebelOne Mar 2013 #13
I agree - it is definitely the most useful in the US, plus in any number of travel destinations Flaxbee Mar 2013 #18
Spanish a la izquierda Mar 2013 #14
Definitely going for useful vs. obscure :) Flaxbee Mar 2013 #19
Spanish. no contest Kali Mar 2013 #23
yes, that's pretty much my conclusion. Plus, I have an almost Flaxbee Mar 2013 #24
heh, depending where you go Kali Mar 2013 #25
Spanish is really useful now but German would really be a challenge. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #26
Espronto ( ? ) olddots Mar 2013 #27
Sing or speak to me in Italian and I'm YOURS, elleng Mar 2013 #28
Start with http://www.pravda.ru/ to build or maintain your vocabulary. talkingmime Mar 2013 #29
 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
1. Spanish because you can actually put it to use.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:05 PM
Mar 2013

Coffee break Spanish (google it) cause it's good, extensive and free.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
5. thank you! Have googled; will explore
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:03 PM
Mar 2013

That's the thing - I love Italian, but being able to put it to use on a regular basis wouldn't be easy.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
2. French because it's rapidly growing world wide.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:11 PM
Mar 2013

Particularly in African countries.

And look up your local Alliance Francaise - There are probably more French speakers around you than you realize.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
6. Hmm, I wouldn't have thought it was a growing language; as the
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:04 PM
Mar 2013

French have retreated over the decades from Africa I thought it was in decline....

Interesting. Will research.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
4. What a delightful dilemna! Italian is utterly beautiful to listen to but so is French
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:21 PM
Mar 2013

And Spanish could be of serious benefit in general. I can't see how you can lose whichever way you choose!

If I HAD to choose I'd go with Spanish because my partner speaks it fluently and I'd love to travel in Latin America.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
8. see, I feel compelled to go with Spanish, but I could probably get to fluency in French
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:05 PM
Mar 2013

the quickest.

Italian was a blast in college - but probably the least practical. Though soooo fun to speak.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
9. Any of those
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:06 PM
Mar 2013

Also, use:
http://www.livemocha.com
Which connects you to speakers of foreign languages. You can learn from them while you teach them english.

I think it is a great service.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
17. I agree. It's just never been my first choice, even though it is the most LOGICAL choice
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:49 PM
Mar 2013

Sigh. I'm so conflicted.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
20. you sound like me ... but, honestly Flaxbee, you will USE the Spanish -
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:52 PM
Mar 2013

and the others you will lose anyway ...

trying to be practical here

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
21. I know. Which is why I'd pretty much decided on Spanish, but with French a close
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:58 PM
Mar 2013

second.

Even though I loooove the sound of Italian. I hate to admit I even watched it because I knew it would be a train wreck (though nothing with Javier Bardem in it is ever a waste of time), but in "Eat, Love, Pray" Julia Roberts says her favorite Italian word is "attraversiamo" (meaning, let's cross over) and it is just so much fun to say, and so beautiful.

But. I'd be saying attraversiamo and andiamo and all these other words to myself, with no conversational opportunities.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
11. Does anyone know if the Spanish that is taught in American schools is the Spanish
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:09 PM
Mar 2013

spoken in Mexico, Central America and South America?

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
12. Spain Spanish, usually.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:12 PM
Mar 2013

Every time I'm in Mexico I use some peninsular word that sends my friends into stitches.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
13. I think the top priority would be Spanish and the second would be French..
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:13 PM
Mar 2013

I lived in Miami, FL, most of my life and it helped to know some Spanish. I now live in Georgia where there are a lot of immigrants. I wish I had studied French because I traveled to France twice and could not speak the language. Luckily, most of the French I met were fluent in English.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
18. I agree - it is definitely the most useful in the US, plus in any number of travel destinations
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:50 PM
Mar 2013

I just love the sound of Italian.
And I know the most French.

But sometimes utility must come first.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
14. Spanish
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:13 PM
Mar 2013

But I'm biased by what I do for a living.
I tried Italian in college. Meh (and I'm Italian, btw). French is beautiful and it's next on my list, as I need it for studies (German, too).

Now, if you really want an obscure language, teach yourself P'urhepecha or Nahuatl.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
19. Definitely going for useful vs. obscure :)
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:51 PM
Mar 2013

It'll probably be Spanish first, but then French.

Will circle back to Russian when my life becomes less complicated.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
23. Spanish. no contest
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:16 PM
Mar 2013

it will help with both the French and Italian, is easier and WAY more useful. Funny story: when I was a kid my family traveled to Taiwan. My father had a suit made while we were there. The Chinese tailor spoke no English but had spent some time in the Philippines, my father spoke no Chinese - so the transaction was done in shitty Spanish.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
24. yes, that's pretty much my conclusion. Plus, I have an almost
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:41 PM
Mar 2013

uncontrollable yearning to get back to the desert southwest and spend some time in Mexico, so... there you go. Easy answer, really, when it comes down to it.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
25. heh, depending where you go
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:51 PM
Mar 2013

Mexico is really going English. Spent 12 days in Baja last month and hardly got to use Spanish at all. Kind of frustrating - trying to force people to use it so we could get some practice

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
27. Espronto ( ? )
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 04:59 PM
Mar 2013

this was a language created by linguists that was logical so naturally it didn't catch on .

I'd go with Spanish .

elleng

(130,864 posts)
28. Sing or speak to me in Italian and I'm YOURS,
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 05:07 PM
Mar 2013

so if that prospect interests you, there's your answer!


 

talkingmime

(2,173 posts)
29. Start with http://www.pravda.ru/ to build or maintain your vocabulary.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 05:09 PM
Mar 2013

The format and style mimics the formats on our major sites so you'll see a lot of the same photos and even the same stories associated with them. Two-window comparison is most helpful. Put Pravda in the left and Yahoo news in the right and try to read the Russian version first, then use the English to fill in the blanks. A lot of the words are cognates anyway.

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