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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsMy birth certificate isn't good enough for a passport. Too late.
I am about to have an anxiety attack.
I was born in 1965 and have a birth certificate that does not list the names of my parents. I acquired a passport with this 18 years ago, no longer have that passport.
I applied for a new passport using that same birth certificate, the accepting agent said nothing about the rule change in 2011 which requires a birth certificate listing both parents.
I was just notified that my birth certificate is unacceptable; I will not be able to get an acceptable one from my birth state in time to travel....the website says - in big red letters - it will take 30-35 BUSINESS days for them to process my order, and I have no one there to go get it and send to me. I travel in 3 weeks.
I don't know what to do.....am I screwed or does anyone have an idea of how to get around this?
elleng
(130,861 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)I live in Texas.....was not born here.
elleng
(130,861 posts)who get your vote (or MAYBE get your vote,) yes. Part of their job is to expedite matters for their constituents with government agencies.
Kali
(55,007 posts)get a human and stay calm but firm and see if they can help you.
where are you going?
If I had been told by the accepting agent at the time, I would have taken care of it; didn't know! And it's not my first passport. The system is completely fucked up.
Kali
(55,007 posts)and good luck!
yeah there are a lot of stupid hoops you have to jump through, though I did like that I could do my own photos for the two most recent passports I have worked on (me and the husband)
the accepting agent should have caught the problem, but not much you can do about it now. keep us updated.
elleng
(130,861 posts)They should have taken care of it at the time.
iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)I can't remember the name of the company I used, but I needed one with a raised seal from the state of NY where I was born. I needed it to get a new FL drivers license. I do believe they had a rush service. I didn't use that and it took only about a week to get the certificate. OK...while writing this response I found the company. It's called Vital Check. They might be able to help you out.
vitalcheck.com/birthcertificates
Good Luck!
Hangingon
(3,071 posts)The one with little foot prints. In WW2 period it seems lots of people got these in lieu of the state certificate. Dept. of State rejected it for a passport. I called my congressman's office. He had a person experienced with passport problems. I had to get a state birth certificate and pay for expedited service and Fedex. The staffer got it pushed thru. As a bonus, I learned my first name is officially spelled wrong. Hope that helps.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)of birth for a new certificate. In some places you can receive them in a day or two. Call and explain the situation. If you can get that check into expedited service for the passport.
They say it can take up to three weeks but it often takes less time than that.
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/services/expedited.html
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)it's with the State Department and as long as you have the documentation they can get you a passport pdq if you pay for it.
From their website a list of agencies can be found here:
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/information/where-to-apply/agencies.html
Expedited Service at a Passport Agency
If you need a passport very quickly, the best method may be to apply at a U.S. Department of State Passport Agency.
There are 28 passport agencies around the country that can provide expedited service. Many have opened in the last few years and there may be one closer to you than you think.
Appointments are required to apply at U.S. Department of State passport agencies. Most passport agencies require proof of travel within two weeks in order to make an appointment. For a complete list, click here.
Some passport agencies do not require proof of travel to make an appointment.
To schedule an appointment, please call the National Passport Information Center at 1-877-487-2778; 1-88-874-7793 (TDD/TTY). The $60 expedite fee is required for each application submitted in person at a Passport Agency or Center. Payment methods include:
Major Credit Card Visa, MasterCard, American Express Discover
Debit/Check cards (not ATM cards)
Checks, bank drafts, money orders
Cash payments must be exact change. No change is given.
The passport agency will determine how best to return the passport in order to meet the customer's documented travel plans.
Will Call service is offered for life/death emergencies and immediate travel.
Proof of travel is required for will call service.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)The woman who answered took my information and told me a case worker would be contacting me shortly. I have my fingers crossed...
elleng
(130,861 posts)Tell them we like him!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I met and talked with him at a halloween party right before the election; really good guy. So is Julian, who is moving on to bigger and better things. He's done great things for SA.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)But, I have to ask...why are your parents not listed on your birth certificate, or at least your birth mother?
Mariana
(14,854 posts)especially the ones issued years ago, just have name, date of birth, and sometimes location. They were mostly for proving age (for school and such), but were often accepted for proving place of birth for a long time. People got the short forms because they were cheaper than the long forms. I still have one of those floating around somewhere. The vital records office can issue a new cert with all the information on it.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I suppose birth certificates vary quite a bit by county and state.
I have nephews who needed to get birth certificates for passports last year from a county 200 miles away and they were able to get them expedited for about 18 bucks.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)It has a seal but doesn't list the names of my parents. When I applied for a passport then (why I got it), they accepted it. I can't recall if I had the option of obtaining a 'long' form bc with their names.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)My father found out only last year that his name was spelled one way on his birth certificate... and he's been spelling it differently his whole life.
csziggy
(34,135 posts)In their computerized records. She had used the same birth date the entire time she grew up, when she got her Social Security card, when she enlisted as a Navy Nurse, when she got married, etc. But when the new rules for getting a driver's license went into effect she ordered a new certified copy of her birth certificate. The date on it was one day later than the date she had used her entire life.
It took several years and a lot of correspondence to sort it out. Apparently some clerk when they computerized everything put down the date the birth was reported by the doctor instead of the actual birth date. But Mom had to get certified copies of the originals of her Social Security application, her enlistment form, and of the family Bible before Alabama would correct their mistake.
Oh, then there was the complication that the original birth certificate she had used to join the service had her listed as "unnamed female child" on the first name line with her surname filled in. That's one reason the state would not accept that as proof of their mistake!
One of the letters suggested that she get an affidavit from the doctor who delivered her. Umm, yeah, sure. He was in his forties when she was born. She was in her mid-eighties. Right, easy peasy!
Wow.
csziggy
(34,135 posts)She'd lived all those years with the old one she got to join the Navy that had no name. It was an amazing saga getting it all corrected. She did have it in 2008 when she voted for Obama. Although she's conservative, she thinks McCain is an idiot and was completely offended by his choice of Palin for VP. She might be old but she's still pretty smart.
Of course, we were not all that thrilled that she was able to renew her driver's license - she should NOT have still been driving. She still has one which doesn't expire until 2016. She's now 93 and finally last year her doctor told her to stop driving. She's convinced she'd be safe, but my sister hides her car keys and won't let her drive.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)that they did not have middle names. My father, born 2-1/2 years later, did have a middle name. The neighbor lady, who was also the midwife, did not report the first two births accurately to the the county.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Misprint and corrected.....but.
It is of course a nickname he will never live down.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)Like what President Obama finally published to shut up the likes of Idiot Trump. The hospital BC with the cute footie prints is NOT a govt document and won't work to get a passport.
Also, do you still have your old passport? I think if you let it expire it won't work as a renewel resource, but you can at least show it and let them know you received it without the long form.
And one more thing: I'm assuming you're not leaving in the next week, so if you can get a copy of the proper BC, find an office that will expedite your passport and for an extra 60 bucks you can get it in one day. I just did that, and it was easier than you can imagine. Maybe there's an office in Dallas or Austin--not sure exactly where you live...?
I work for the airlines--I get to tell travelers all the time that they need different documents for different countries, and they can usually correct any problem in a day. Check the state dept's website closest to your city.
And good luck! I do my job because I'm in Europe at least twice a year; I hope you don't miss such a wonderful trip. Happy trails!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I do not still have my old passport unfortunately. However - I was told that the state dept will do a file search for it, and will accept that in lieu of providing a new bc, which I will not have in time. I leave in 3 weeks, and 30-35 business days won't cut it. I ordered one so I have it but will get here too late.
DFW
(54,338 posts)If you have had a passport before, your Social Security number alone should be sufficient to locate the record.
Also--if you tell State that it is a case of urgency, they can have your passport in your hands in four days or less--IF you get some sympathetic help (be nice to the person helping you in person or on the phone). Worked for me last time (2011)--3 days and I had mine.
By the way, where in Europe are you headed to?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)You can get a passport pretty quick on your own - though you still have to pay the 60 bucks to the feds for expediting.
IIRC, the rule is you can expedite (and pay the fee) if traveling in less than two weeks. I was right at the cusp of two weeks and decided to wait to be inside the two week time rather than request normal handling at 3 weeks - and get screwed with a slow process. I think the 2 week time frame was on your honor anyway - they didn't ask me for an airline ticket or anything.
So I paid the 60 dollar fee and had the passport in a week.
When I was picking mine up there were people applying for same day and next day passports. My partner was having conniptions at the two week mark. Next day would have killed him.
IIRC, the expediters wanted 3 or 400 dollars for fast passports.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)I was born in Alameda County. My mom gave me a document that she honestly believed was my birth certificate. About the size of a check, with my name, date, and county of birth. The school wouldn't take it. So I took a close look at it and read the very fine print. It turns out this document was a "Certification of Notification of Birth". Basically, it's what the state sent saying "Your kid now has a birth cetificate available; if you want a copy send $X to Alameda County."
Fearless
(18,421 posts)It costs quite a bit more, but it may be necessary in your case.
Try this link...
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/information/where-to-apply.html
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)but worth it!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Are you near a big city? Definitely check!
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)All the rules have traveling have gotten more strict over the past 13 years. I was able to get a passport on fairly short notice in July 2001 as my first wife and planned on traveling to Europe. I do remember it took a couple weeks and required us to travel up to Seattle. Plus the fee was quite a bit more. That was my first passport. We got back the Friday before the 9/11 attacks.
Since the beginning of 2004 I've lived abroad and renewed my passport here in Korea a few years ago. Everything went via courier to the US Embassy and came back that way and it happened in 3 weeks. The new one was redesigned and had the chip.
To anyone else planning on getting a new passport or renewing make sure you allow a good 6 months before you travel (Source: US State Department).
Also make sure to get the passport with the extra pages when you get or renew a passport. They are now charging for adding pages!