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Which Legendary Racehorse Are You? (Original Post) magical thyme Jun 2014 OP
Seabiscuit vs War Admiral, Pimlico 1938 malthaussen Jun 2014 #1
loved the book and loved the movie... magical thyme Jun 2014 #5
I had a friend who broke her neck falling off a horse. malthaussen Jun 2014 #6
Smarty Jones sakabatou Jun 2014 #2
Me too! femmocrat Jun 2014 #9
The old gray mare Ptah Jun 2014 #3
Ain't what she used to be sakabatou Jun 2014 #11
Hoof Hearted NightWatcher Jun 2014 #4
Old Bones, The Wonder Horse. hedda_foil Jun 2014 #7
You got: Citation! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #8
same as you Kali Jun 2014 #10

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
1. Seabiscuit vs War Admiral, Pimlico 1938
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 02:54 PM
Jun 2014


War Admiral, four years old, had won the Triple Crown and Horse of the Year in 1937. Seabiscuit, who was five, would win Horse of the Year in 1938. Although the Biscuit was a year older than the Admiral, he was actually War Admiral's nephew.

What isn't evident from this film is that the Biscuit's jockey was instructed to pull up a little and make a race of it. Seabiscuit tended to get bored if he was too far out front, and liked to hang back and look the other fellow in the eye before showing him his heels. A bit of a nasty bastard, actually. Just before Biscuit makes his break at the end, his jockey George Woolf calls out to the other jockey, Charles Kurtsinger, "See ya, Charlie!" But that's not audible on this film. Despite War Admiral posting his fastest ever speed for the 1 3/16 miles, Biscuit beats him by four lengths.

Laura Hillenbrand wrote an excellent book about the horse and his times, Seabiscuit, an American Legend. I think it's a great piece of social and sporting history.

-- Mal
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
5. loved the book and loved the movie...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 03:58 PM
Jun 2014

Even though they played fast and loose with some facts. In the need for a "villain" they made War Admiral gigantic. In reality he was smallish (15.3 tops iirc.)

To its credit, the portrayal of the horrific fall Woolf had was so realistic I had a panic attack in the middle of the movie. About a decade earlier, my arab gelding fell over backwards. I was able to jump free in the nick of time (if you jump too soon, you'll pull the horse on top of you. if you jump too late, you won't be able to get out from under. either way, you may be crushed to death.) It was the most athletic thing I think I've ever done in my life. I sprained my knee badly swinging my leg under his back. The backward momentum as they start to fall is enormous. Anyway I landed face down, Algiers landed on his back next to me. We looked each other in the eye. And then he rolled on top of me and used my back to hoist himself to his feet with his elbow between my shoulder blades. I was a quadriplegic -- really just a head in the dirt -- for about 10-15 minutes after that, before I slowly regained feeling and movement.

Back to the movie, watching that scene I flashed back totally and nearly had to leave the theater, also nearly passed out. That scene was very, very well done.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
6. I had a friend who broke her neck falling off a horse.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jun 2014

She survived, but had to wear one of those neck cages for a good long time. Then she got right back to riding.

My brother lives on a horse farm and was run over last year by a p-o'd gelding who busted him up pretty good. He only survived because one of the other horses beat the crap out of the culprit and chased him away. Three days later, Jeff was up and exercising the horses again. Hey, this stuff happens when you mess with one-ton excitable morons.

I didn't see the movie, but I love the book. The Biscuit was definitely a cool nag.

-- Mal

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
9. Me too!
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jun 2014

You got: Smarty Jones
Doug Pensinger / Getty Images
You won the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness in 2004, and you placed second at Belmont the same year. Good job, you!

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
7. Old Bones, The Wonder Horse.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jun 2014


AKA Exterminator. It was a Weekly Reader book club selection (along with Danny Dunn and the Antigravity Machine) around 1953. One of my favorite books from that long ago time, it's about an ungainly thoroughbred who won major races for something like 15 years.

From a horseracing blog Colin' s Ghost: Thoroughbred Racing History


“…A race horse must be judged in three directions — speed, stamina, and time — the time he lasts. So while you might rate Man o’ War or Citation as the greatest three-year-olds, neither should be classed as the greatest race horse. I think that distinction belongs to Exterminator, sometimes known as ‘Old Bones.’ Exterminator raced his first race at Latonia, June 30, 1917. He ran his last race at Dorval Park, June 21, 1924. That makes a total of seven racing years, or more than twice what Man o’ War faced. And in those seven years he was carrying high weight, from 135 to 140 pounds. Yet under this heavy burden he won 50 out of 100 races before he retired….”

“…There was only one Exterminator. Talk with John Partridge, the veteran trainer, one of the best judges of horse flesh I ever saw. John has been looking at them run for over 60 years: ‘I’d like to think what Extermninator would do with this modern bunch,’ he told me. ‘Six furlongs one day – three days later a mile and a quarter – then two miles, then six furlongs again. He didn’t care.’”

Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
8. You got: Citation!
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 07:08 PM
Jun 2014


You were a big freakin’ deal in your heyday, becoming the eighth American Triple Crown winner and the first horse in history to win a million dollars! You’re amazing!
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