Two weeks?

I would wait another week or two on top of that.

Seriously.


You don't even want to know how I know that.

For the perm, and then the coloring. Those two, really do not mix well together!

You'd probably loose your perm, the color would not come out the way you wanted, and then, you could just burn off your hair.

I'd wait 6 weeks between the two dear.

colored.

My mom permed and colored her hair all the time and it was only 2 weeks between. I think the perm solutions nowadays are not as harsh as those used in the 80s.

permed and colored at the same time. The allergic reaction they suffered is unimaginable and permanent. Don't do the two close to one another. Wait as long as you can.

Throwing two different chemical services at your hair can irreparably damage it - to the point you'll have to chop it off and let it grow back to make it right. At the least it'll give your hair the texture of straw.

For many years, I have had a perm and color at the same sitting. I've never had an adverse reaction to either process. The type of color I use gradually washes out over a couple of months and the perm doesn't come out until it's cut out. I appreciate that others have had different results, but I've never had a problem.

Those are usually conditioning treatments.

However, a two-step color process (tint + peroxide) added on top of a perm will just blast the cuticle open even more. The perm will lose curl, the color will fade too soon and the hair will be dry and brittle.

Frankly, I think perms are just plain evil and should be avoided at all costs. Permanent coloring isn't great for hair health but perms are brutal.

it also depends on the color you're using.

I found I had nice smooth hair when dyeing it a darker color. When going blonde, even if I was only frosting it and not doing a total head lightening, the hair got damaged.

On top of that, it depends on what color your hair is to begin with, although something strange happens with my hair, which is lighter than my daughter's. Her hair goes quickly from dark brown to blonde, whereas my hair, a light/medium dishwater brown, goes through these bizarre shades of red and takes a long time.

Anyway, the one and only time I had a perm very soon after frosting my hair, here is what happened...I literally cried:


Note: this isn't really me, just a fair representation of what I looked like

that has to be my all time favorite episode...the home perm and the homemade dress...

hahahahaha!!!!

I had a perm, cut, color and foil all at the same sitting -- the foil being the peroxide. I never lost any curl and the condition of my hair was ok -- never great to begin with. I stopped foiling because I retired and had to cut back on expenses where I could. Every little bit helps. I also stopped having my nails done, stopped all but one magazine subscription (Vanity Fair). I would have cut back more but the people I live with didn't want to so they took over the payments. Can't complain. I digress...............

When one has the fine, thin hair I have, a perm gives some softness to my face and balances my face/hair ratio. Without a perm, I look like a drowned cat.

Did many a double/triple process when I was a cosmetologist. They can be done and the hair survives. I understand about fine, thin hair. I understand that once you find something that works, you stick with it.

At the end of the day, it's your hair and as I always told my customers: "There's not a lot in life that you can control. But at least you can control your hair."

although I may be the exception to that. Right now I'm having a "bad hair" period. I was extremely sick and hospitalized a number of times between October and January. About six weeks after I got out of the hospital the last time, about 1/3 of my hair fell out -- it came out by the hands-full! I was shocked and worried, but it eventually stopped falling out. So now, while I started with pretty thin hair in the first place, I have even thinner hair now. I had my hair cut short (removed all the old perm) and just had some color to cover the grey. I didn't want to make things worse, so I didn't have a perm this time. I look awful. My hair is as straight as a board anyway. Won't even curl with a curling iron. So, I just have to wait for it to grow back in. My hairdresser said she can see where new hair is coming back but there isn't enough of it to make a difference right now. Even though I dislike the way it looks, I didn't let it keep me from the Seattle International Film Festival - saw 25 movies in 3 weeks.

It's not a medicine like Rogaine.

Whatever gains you see from it (Nioxin) won't disappear if you stop using it. It's just deep cleansers and nutrients that perk up sluggish follicles.

I'll check at the drug store next time I go over there! Kind of you to make a recommendation. Thanks.

Wondering it that could be going on, after what you went through.

I have a team of doctors, each one with their own specialty, each giving me conflicting instructions but in the midst of the confusion, blood tests at least show the facts -- and I have another one scheduled for July 8 so I'll know more then.

P.S. This isn't cancer or anything scary like that. I had infected kidney stones, surgery, then I caught H1N1 in the hospital which resulted in congestive heart failure (fortunately, not on-going), and then to put the cherry on the top, I had a very high calcium reading which convinced a couple of doctors I had some exotic form of cancer (I don't). At the end, all tests were normal, and then my hair fell out.

Fun times....................NOT.

Frosting it was the only way to add some kind of texture to it.

Otherwise, like you, my head looked like drowned mammals (rats, in my case).

Now that it's being interspersed with threads of silver, it's starting to get some texture, albeit somewhat wire-y. But still, it's better than nothing.

I've decided not to color it anymore. Getting the look I was paying for, for free...not a bad deal

Even my grey hairs are fine. Like baby-hair. Once I get a full head of hair back, I'll get another perm and color. It's the only way I can stand to look at myself in the mirror.

or so I've heard.

Gray hairs are supposed to be way more substantial than colored hair.

Are you using any sort of hairpiece things, or short wigs?

but mine isn't. My daughter's is but then she's always taken after her father -- full thick hair -- so naturally her grey is thicker also. No, I don't use a hairpiece or wig but I've thought of it. When I was younger and it was in style I wore a "fall", a hairpiece with curls worn at the back of the head. But that was a long time ago. I use heavy hair gel to get some loft in it and that's about it for now. I'm going to Gold Rush Days in Sacramento the end of August where I wear a period costume. I have a variety of hats, one is a straw bonnet which won't show much of my hair at all. So I'll wear that and not worry about it. It will eventually all grow back and then I'll get another perm. I've always said that the great thing about hair is no matter what you do to it, it will grow out and you can do something else.

I am 75 years old and have been coloring my hair since I was 16. I would never consider coloring my hair after a perm until at least a month.

I go gray so quickly, I color my hair at least two weeks BEFORE I get my perm!


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And see if your colorist can use one of the new, less-damaging hair coloring brands. Newer dyes aren't nearly as harsh as they were, and even perm chemicals are better.

The last time I dyed my hair I used something from Sally Beauty Supply that didn't need peroxide. I think it was called Ion. After I got it home and had put it on, I saw the small print on the instructions that said to use some other product (can't recall now what it was, something to activate the color, I guess), which of course I didn't have , so I added a little water and worked it through. Nothing else to do at that point. Came out gorgeous, a lovely reddish brunette with copper highlights.

When I got older, I got tired of the whole dyeing thing, the time and care it took. Finally I let it grow out. Yes, it did look weird for a few months, but I had a hairdresser cut it when I had several inches of white hair, then I let it grow out the rest of the way.

Now I can wash and blow dry my hair in about five minutes, and I don't need a conditioner, because it is in so much better condition. Unbelievable compared to the time it used to take to take care of my hair.

Also, I can wear a whole new set of colors, my complexion looks better, and people are far more polite to me, because I'm, you know, old and men help me with packages and doors. I highly recommend it.

I have fine hair, but I think it looks better white than it did dyed. Maybe some was breaking off.