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DebJ

(7,699 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:35 PM Jun 2014

If your fiance has a heart attack and is taken to the hospital, will the hospital let you see him?

Or will they release his status to you?

My sister-in-law's fiance had a heart attack about an hour and a half ago. The ER techs came
and worked on him a good while and would not tell my sister-in-law even if he was dead or alive.

She is at the hospital now, having arrived before the ambulance somehow, and still knows nothing.

His parents live in Florida now but he does have a brother nearby I think. This is in Jersey.

Will they even let her know his status?

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If your fiance has a heart attack and is taken to the hospital, will the hospital let you see him? (Original Post) DebJ Jun 2014 OP
Varies from state to state, depends on declarations you make. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #1
Thanks. And I hope you are recovering okay! I don't recognize a lot of DU names but I DebJ Jun 2014 #4
I sincerely thank you for that sentiment. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #5
My sister in law had an aneurism two years ago at the age of 52. DebJ Jun 2014 #11
Screw them. Just say she is the wife. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #2
Better advice would be to research how it works from one state to another. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #6
I get what you are saying but I don't think the ER waiting room..... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #9
By the way. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #12
Thank you. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #15
Of course you will have the good taste to not mention I wished you well.... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #18
. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #20
Even though I have been married for nearly 37 years csziggy Jun 2014 #8
Yeah. I get that. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #10
THAT is precisely the example I use to get to the toughest of right wing fundies. DebJ Jun 2014 #13
True - and here in Florida it can be really bad csziggy Jun 2014 #16
You would think a fiancee would be OK to talk to. GreenPartyVoter Jun 2014 #3
This is why everyone over the age of 18 Mr.Bill Jun 2014 #7
Thank you everyone. He passed away. n/t DebJ Jun 2014 #14
I'm so sorry. Please give her my condolences. n/t csziggy Jun 2014 #17
Oh no. I'm so sorry. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #19
So very sorry. Hugs. 840high Jun 2014 #22
I'm so sorry for your loss. warrior1 Jun 2014 #23
I am so very sorry! *hugs* GreenPartyVoter Jun 2014 #25
So sorry to hear that HeiressofBickworth Jun 2014 #21
Maybe. KamaAina Jun 2014 #24
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Varies from state to state, depends on declarations you make.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:38 PM
Jun 2014

I am just out of two emergency surgeries, the first a brain surgery involving lifeflight to the nearest major med center (Stanford).

I identified my GF as next of kin, she gets all the records.

YMMV.

Good luck.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
4. Thanks. And I hope you are recovering okay! I don't recognize a lot of DU names but I
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jun 2014

do get positive vibes when I read yours.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
5. I sincerely thank you for that sentiment.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:45 PM
Jun 2014

It's a pain in the ass to be 57 and have an aneurism and seizure, but ACA is covering it.

I love DU, and I thank you for the reply!

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
11. My sister in law had an aneurism two years ago at the age of 52.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:46 PM
Jun 2014

This is the one I'm talking about.

He died.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. Better advice would be to research how it works from one state to another.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:57 PM
Jun 2014

Absent that, your advice could screw things up and become a matter or record.

Take My Advice on this one....

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
9. I get what you are saying but I don't think the ER waiting room.....
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:30 PM
Jun 2014

.... while a loved one is having a heart attack is conducive for researching the ins and outs of health care law.

For me, wife is close enough to get past some nurse at a desk or on a phone. I'm not going to risk getting in to a pissing match with some nurse Ratched type. If it comes down to brass tacks later and putting anything in writing I'm going to say I said fiancée sorry he's about to be my husband. Close enough. Sorry for the confusion. And by then I'll be in contact with family.

This has been our plan between my partner and I. Except substitute brother for wife (everybody always asks us if we are brothers anyway). All the nightmare stories I've heard from friends and read about here on DU regarding stick in the ass medical people giving my people a hard time and disregarding medical POAs maybe gives me a different perspective.


I don't even want to remember all the times I ran over to the hospital to meet my mom or dad in the ER and no one ever asked me for a birth certificate.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
15. Thank you.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:49 PM
Jun 2014

Sincerely. Recovery takes longer as we age, and it's humbling.

I truly appreciate your thoughtful reply.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
18. Of course you will have the good taste to not mention I wished you well....
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jun 2014

..... when we are fighting in the host forum.



Sorry couldn't resist. I was just watching Blazing Saddles - the part when the little old lady brings the sheriff the pie.

Again, glad you are ok.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
8. Even though I have been married for nearly 37 years
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jun 2014

I still have to list my husband as one of the people permitted to get medical information. Same for him, he has to specifically list me. I also have my older sister listed so she can intercede for my family if she is concerned about medical choices.

No one ever asked for a marriage certificate - but they wanted the people allowed to know specified on their paperwork before I went into my various surgeries.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
10. Yeah. I get that.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:40 PM
Jun 2014

My partner had major surgery last year so we went through all that. I even had to set up a pass code to get information over the phone from a station nurse.

I'm talking about meeting an ambulance in the ER. Loved one unconscious. They ask you who you are - answer wrong and you can be locked out.

My perspective might be a little different because, as a gay couple, we still run the risk of getting fucked with even with the "correct" paperwork.

I ran in to some pain in the ass at an endodontist office last year. She got all flustered when the person listed as the primary was another guy.

Her: who is this?

Me: my partner.

Her: your what?

Me: my partner

Her: what's a partner

Me: my domestic partner

Her: oh. (Scowl) I have to call about this. Walks away in a huff.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
13. THAT is precisely the example I use to get to the toughest of right wing fundies.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jun 2014

It has worked.

This situation you face stresses me out so bad I just can't stand it.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
16. True - and here in Florida it can be really bad
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jun 2014

I had an ER doctor who thought I had really gotten brain damage after I was knocked out (by being punched in the face by one of my young horses) because I told him my name, said "yes" I was married, but then when I gave my husband's name our surnames didn't match. That was in 1980 or so, but I STILL run into that attitude!

That is just one reason I make sure to specifically list him, but when I was in the rehab hospital after my knee replacement, the entrance desk wanted ID to prove he was my husband. We both laughed and asked if he needed to bring our marriage certificate next time. The woman finally decided if I was OK with him coming in, she had to accept it. I would bet that she would NOT have accepted your domestic partner - her attitude just seemed to be that way.

Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
7. This is why everyone over the age of 18
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:15 PM
Jun 2014

needs to fill out an advance directive. That woman in the lobby saying she is your fiancé could unfortunately be some psycho maniac that is stalking you.

Not saying this is the case here, of course, but stranger things happen in a hospital.

Hoping for a full and speedy recovery for the man in the OP.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
21. So sorry to hear that
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:23 AM
Jun 2014

Condolences to your family. A hard situation made worse by the difficulty in the flow of information.

I had a friend who listed me as his contact. We both lived here in Washington and his family was in California. He furnished me with a list of his family members to contact in the event anything happened to him. One night in 2000, I got a call from a nurse at a hospital he had been taken to; he died of a heart attack. It was my sad duty to call his family. They took over from there.

I have another friend who lives a couple of blocks from me. I have his sister's number in New York in the event anything happens to him. I'm not sure who he has named as a contact, but I at least have his sister's name and number.

Lesson for us all: be sure you carry something that designates the person to receive medical information.

Again, so sorry for your family's loss.

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