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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:05 AM Dec 2014

grammar conundrum

Last edited Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes! or Yes ! (notice the missing space in first example)

I was always taught to insert some space between the word and an exclamation point. Maybe that's not the standard way any more ?

I will lose sleep until this is resolved for me !

ETA: Now that I've wracked my middle-aged brain, I may have been taught the correct way 47 or 48 years ago, but decided on my own that a space looked better. That probably makes more sense now that the unanimous verdict is no space. Even in law school, no one ever corrected me. Meh, such is life. One more mystery of the universe solved, 9 googol more to go!

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grammar conundrum (Original Post) steve2470 Dec 2014 OP
I was always taught no space! Suich Dec 2014 #1
No space. yewberry Dec 2014 #2
That never was a standard pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #3
orlando florida in the sixties ? lol steve2470 Dec 2014 #7
As a journalism student, I was weaned on news stylebooks in the '60s pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #10
snoreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee steve2470 Dec 2014 #12
No space...! ..nt TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #4
fwiw steve2470 Dec 2014 #5
No Space! <------like this! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #6
thanks, now I can sleep! :) nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #14
I was never taught that. elleng Dec 2014 #8
I must have had really bad instructors steve2470 Dec 2014 #9
A puzzlement, elleng Dec 2014 #11
yeah, grad school was in the 80's for me ...and I was never corrected, oh well nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #13
An extra space might be noticed, but is not necessarily something that would marked as an error pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #16
yea steve2470 Dec 2014 #17
Hell, with all your spelling and grammar errors they had more than enough to worry about pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #18
lol and my tendency to turn them in at the last nanosecond! :P nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #19
True story... pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #20
very clever! nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #22
No space! NRaleighLiberal Dec 2014 #15
I was taught to follow AP standards and I've never seen or heard of using a space... Rhiannon12866 Dec 2014 #21
No space for exclamation marks here in Cali mackerel Dec 2014 #23
Overuse? Are you nuts? Exclamation points CANNOT be overused!1!! pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #24
LMAO! mackerel Dec 2014 #29
You're all jaded. rug Dec 2014 #32
Absolutely no space. Whoever you that did not know English grammar. n/t RebelOne Dec 2014 #25
You are still a good person, but there was never any space. Hoyt Dec 2014 #26
Thanks, see eta above, I probably changed it on my own nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #27
Languages evolve. Get more followers. RedCloud Dec 2014 #28
That's my attitude. hunter Dec 2014 #39
That is not a "grammar" anything. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #30
That's a typography conundrum. rug Dec 2014 #31
Yep. Poor kerning. Paulie Dec 2014 #34
Always kern the bang. rug Dec 2014 #35
!!! Paulie Dec 2014 #36
Some of the grammar police need to be a little kinder to people like me. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #33
Yes, ! mia Dec 2014 #37
my mom would say: "oh well. what the hell?" orleans Dec 2014 #38
On a computer do not add a space before !, and do only one space after a period Recursion Dec 2014 #40
No Space, the final frontier LiberalEsto Dec 2014 #41

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
7. orlando florida in the sixties ? lol
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:19 AM
Dec 2014

I've always done it that way, even in formal papers in my graduate school. No one ever corrected me.

I've just noticed over the past few years no space, so, I've been losing a lot of sleep worrying about this.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
10. As a journalism student, I was weaned on news stylebooks in the '60s
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:25 AM
Dec 2014

None of them called for a space. Now that the replies have laid the matter to rest, I think you deserve a good snooze.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
9. I must have had really bad instructors
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:24 AM
Dec 2014

Amazing no one ever corrected me, not even in graduate school.

elleng

(130,746 posts)
11. A puzzlement,
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:28 AM
Dec 2014

unless you were educated in the past few years with the b.s. that's happening, but as you apparently weren't, its a puzzlement.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
16. An extra space might be noticed, but is not necessarily something that would marked as an error
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:43 AM
Dec 2014

I grew up typing term papers with footnotes and bibliography. My papers tended to be loooog, with extensive footnotes. Profs were sticklers for the rules, and so was I. But even in those days, an extra space was not something likely to be called out.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
17. yea
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:44 AM
Dec 2014

I was always under the impression that my papers had to be perfect in every way, no typos etc etc

I guess they all didn't care about that lapse.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. True story...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:23 AM
Dec 2014

In Army Infantry Officer Candidate School, I once turned in a paper one minute late. I'd been Student Company Commander for a week, and the paper was my evaluations of the subordinate leaders in the company.

For being one minute late, my punishment was that I had to write a 10,000 word essay on leadership. This, on a weekend when we had a pass. My roommate volunteered to stay the weekend to help me write the essay, and we both wrote tons of BS frantically.

We were getting down to the wire and didn't see how we could make the word count when I remembered a line I saw in an Army reg or manual. While we usually hear that "a picture is worth 1,000 words," this Army publication said that "a picture is worth 10.000 words."

So I clipped the 'Follow Me' image that was on the cover of all our OCS publications...



...and stapled it to a sheet of paper, and stapled the '10.000 words' quote below it.

I might have even turned in that assignment one minute late--but I never heard another word about it.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
39. That's my attitude.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 02:05 PM
Dec 2014

It's the promiscuity and sloppiness of English that make the language what it is.

English embraces new words, concepts, and grammars without much fuss.

Grammar "rules" in English are as likely to run amok as spelling rules.

Something like today's BBC news feed would be almost incomprehensible to a Victorian Age English gentleman:

US probe into NY chokehold death

Putin tells Russia: Hard times coming

Lebanon 'has IS leader's daughter'

Orion 'Mars ship' launch postponed

'Majority of Russian athletes dope'

US hostage 'appears in Yemen video'

UAE arrests woman over US killing

Spectre to be title of next Bond film

Africa genetic diversity revealed

China to end prisoners organ harvest

Rebel attack rocks Chechen capital

Mexico boosts security in Acapulco


 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
33. Some of the grammar police need to be a little kinder to people like me.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:18 PM
Dec 2014

I realize that my writing is certainly not always correct but English is my second language.

orleans

(34,042 posts)
38. my mom would say: "oh well. what the hell?"
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 04:12 AM
Dec 2014

meaning--no big deal

how i miss her sage wisdom and advice!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
40. On a computer do not add a space before !, and do only one space after a period
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 02:12 PM
Dec 2014

The rule you learned is a relic of fixed-width typefaces.

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