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Why doesn't anyone make a zombie movie that takes into account that people have an idea (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 OP
Cause Zombies aren't real? GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #1
Don't you see the problem with that? Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #2
Two things... GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #14
Zombieland had Bill Murray jakeXT Dec 2014 #21
Zombieland came the closest. Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #23
I think it's idiotic that "The Walking Dead" does that. Orrex Dec 2014 #8
The Walking Dead world (TWD) it's a different world from ours. GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #10
I do see. I think it's lame. Orrex Dec 2014 #12
I read the comic book as well so please stick around for the show GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #17
Well, part of it really is disbelief and confusion. Xyzse Dec 2014 #3
And why are there no zombies walking around with just a tattered Calvin Klein underwear Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #4
OOooh, I think I misunderstood what you were asking. Xyzse Dec 2014 #5
Walking Dead has made an effort to show the deterioration of the older zombies. Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #6
That is very true. Xyzse Dec 2014 #7
Can't decide what is more disturbing. A shambling zombie coming towards me or a naked zombie with GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #20
Well something to keep in mind is GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #18
Yep! That is my mentality when I'm out on the woods hiking. Xyzse Dec 2014 #19
Read the Newsflesh Trilogy, by Myra Grant dr.strangelove Dec 2014 #9
Thanks for the reccomendation! Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #11
Zobies are the worst. Orrex Dec 2014 #13
Do you have a cold? Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #15
Ask dr.strangelove about this "post-zobie world" of his. Orrex Dec 2014 #16
"Zobi" is a French slang word for "penis" aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2014 #22
Why doesn't someone make a hooror movie of ANY genre... Derek V Dec 2014 #24

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
1. Cause Zombies aren't real?
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 03:30 PM
Dec 2014

If your talking about a Z-movie where attacks have previously taken place then I get your point. Most Z movies start out with the premise that such a thing has never, ever happened before. Therefore, the "change" is always unexpected.

In fact in The Walking Dead, the dead are never, ever referred to as "zombies".

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
2. Don't you see the problem with that?
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:06 PM
Dec 2014

I just saw a zombie movie where there was not one actor over the age of thirty or under 24 years of age. All that wandering around city streets and no indications that anyone outside of the private party of "cool" people that introduced the movie existed at all.

The same problem would exist in any contemporary zombie movie, because you know there will be a great number of us geeks who survived long enough to point out the similarities.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
14. Two things...
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:42 AM
Dec 2014

1. Hollywood likes to put pretty people in their movies so, under 30 and in their 20's is the sweet spot.

2. Geeks that are fit enough or have fit people to fight for them is also a "type" for the movies.

So yeah, the cool people get to live/survive a bit longer & everyone else is z-bait. Sounds about right.

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
8. I think it's idiotic that "The Walking Dead" does that.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 09:07 AM
Dec 2014

I only watched about five episodes and basically couldn't stand the show--and I LOVE the zombie genre.

The fact that they go out of their way to call them anything but "zombies" seems preposterous, even accepting the undeniably preposterous premise of that particular universe.

I mean, I'm cool with the idea that a zombie outbreak has never occurred before, but it also demands that many decades of cinematic history never happened, not to mention pulp horror fiction stretching back even farther.

If I'm about to be attacked by a zombie, and the guy across the street sees that it's about to happen, I don't want him to shout a handful of elegant descriptors simply so that he can avoid using the one word that's instantly recognized.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
10. The Walking Dead world (TWD) it's a different world from ours.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:01 AM
Dec 2014

They have no zombie fiction or zombie mythos to draw knowledge from. It's a totally new experience for them and it makes the entire catastrophe true horror because it's an unknown phenomena. There is no history, cinematic or otherwise at all in the TWD world. None, zip, nada.

Therefore, the word itself, "zombie" does/could not exist in THD. See?

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
12. I do see. I think it's lame.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:20 AM
Dec 2014

Ditto for the characters, dialogue and pacing, but YMMV.

Every time I watched it and went "meh," the diehard fans told me to keep watching. Well, if I can't be inspired to care about any of the character after five episodes, then the show has failed.

Of course, the first five episodes were stretched over what--two seasons? That probably didn't help either.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
17. I read the comic book as well so please stick around for the show
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:03 PM
Dec 2014

Comic readers have somewhat of an inside track as to what is coming. Naturally, some changes have been made to make the series more palatable (drama) for the viewing public. The creator of TWD has stated, that no one is "safe" and no one escapes damage. Well, true to his word he's been BRU-tal with his creations.

IMO it seems that he's not character building as much as going for more, "Oh hell no!" "That did not just happen to him/her"kind of moments. It's a tad bit different from usual tv dramas. But yes, the series gets bogged down to a crawl with all the "acting" and not nearly enough shooting, bashing & stabby-stab action.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
3. Well, part of it really is disbelief and confusion.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:14 PM
Dec 2014

What if such a thing were to happen in Halloween?
Also, what kind of Zomboid? The slow or fast moving one?

Slow moving ones, you have more of a chance, fast moving ones, oh goodness, imagine a human without a pain limiter, they would go faster and longer than most athlete nowadays.

It is definitely an interesting concept though, you could probably pitch the idea on figuring out the response and mobilization time of the government.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
4. And why are there no zombies walking around with just a tattered Calvin Klein underwear
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:20 PM
Dec 2014

hanging on with just an elastic waist band?

It's like we're in the Victorian age of the zombie genre.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
5. OOooh, I think I misunderstood what you were asking.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:28 PM
Dec 2014

I think the reason for that, is really cost.

There are studios that are specifically made for zombies already.
To cut costs they hire those guys and that is pretty much it.

If you're talking about good looking zombies, or younger folk, I can say that I've seen a few cheer leader zombies, kid zombies and stuff like that. Other than that, you would probably have to go to the movies to see such a thing.

SyFy even had a small documentary about a town that companies just shoot in since it is already pre-made.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
6. Walking Dead has made an effort to show the deterioration of the older zombies.
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:33 PM
Dec 2014

It did just occur to me after I posted, that it makes it easier to produce a movie if the zombies are fully clothed because it would require actors with a near-anorexic look to pull off a convincing nekkid zombie.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
20. Can't decide what is more disturbing. A shambling zombie coming towards me or a naked zombie with
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 01:02 PM
Dec 2014

his dead junk swinging to and fro out in the open with bad intentions.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
18. Well something to keep in mind is
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:08 PM
Dec 2014

that you don't have to be the fastest human to outrun a fast zombie, you just have to be faster than the other humans.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
19. Yep! That is my mentality when I'm out on the woods hiking.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

Any time I hear a snap in branches, I run to the nearest group of people.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
9. Read the Newsflesh Trilogy, by Myra Grant
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 09:38 AM
Dec 2014

Which has been optioned as both films and/or TV. These are great books in this genre, which I hope get made into a film trilogy. The main character is a girl named Georgia, which is the most popular name in the post-zobie world as an homoge to Mr. Romero for giving the world a great deal of foresite in how to beat the monsters. There are a few others that deal with zombies like this, but I find it FAR better to watch a world deal with the concept for what it is, completely impossible and yet happening.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
11. Thanks for the reccomendation!
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:17 AM
Dec 2014

I think that we are at a point where writers are going to have to take it to the next level.

But, we still have World War Z to see realized on film. That's the next big project.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
22. "Zobi" is a French slang word for "penis"
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 05:02 PM
Dec 2014

I believe it originated many decades ago from the Arabic word for penis: "zubi".

 

Derek V

(532 posts)
24. Why doesn't someone make a hooror movie of ANY genre...
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 08:10 PM
Dec 2014

where us guys are not portrayed as clueless idiots, while the female characters get what's going on from the outset?

As I've already stated here, this trope doesn't really bother me: I'm just wondering why that is the model.

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