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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:11 AM Dec 2014

something we were discussing about Christmas around the dinner table...

my wife and I are in our late 50s - when we were young, our parents (both families) made a pretty big deal about Christmas - kind of overdid it on the gift thing (certainly fun when you are a kid, but it makes less and less sense as you get older, especially when you put it into context with how many are struggling). Our grandparents (born in the late 1800s) also made a pretty big deal about it - but our great grandparents were likely the first to celebrate it as many do today - a rather illogically bizarre stew of religion and commercialism. It seems as though it was the 1850s when Christmas became a pretty big deal in the US. It wasn't actually declared a federal holiday until 1885.

I do wonder if it will turn the corner again - start to recede a bit as more and more people "grow out" of the family traditions and it evolves into something their own, something new, something much less focused on shopping....

just something kind of interesting to ponder - how relatively new this big deal Christmas thing is for the US.

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something we were discussing about Christmas around the dinner table... (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Dec 2014 OP
Doubt the commercial interests would allow it to recede. elleng Dec 2014 #1
I agree. Archae Dec 2014 #2
That was exactly my first thought, too! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2014 #3
It is time for people to realize that they can actually avebury Dec 2014 #7
my favorite part of the presents part of xmas is the surprise factor orleans Dec 2014 #4
I want to but indivisibleman Dec 2014 #5
Same here. femmocrat Dec 2014 #6
Yes, the grandkids do change things. indivisibleman Dec 2014 #9
I have a friend whose family decided this year they would no longer do adult gifts mnhtnbb Dec 2014 #8
very nice. n/t indivisibleman Dec 2014 #10
well, circumstances caused me to blow it off almost completely. mopinko Dec 2014 #11

Archae

(46,317 posts)
2. I agree.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 01:14 AM
Dec 2014

As long as there are stores, (large and small,) ads, and money, there's going to be Christmas, and as long as there are conservatives, there will be whining about saying "Happy Holidays."

Rhiannon12866

(205,169 posts)
3. That was exactly my first thought, too!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:02 AM
Dec 2014

So many businesses, not even just stores, depend on people spending way too much at Christmas, that they'd be in trouble if the holiday season as it is ceased to exist. I actually ventured into a mall this year, just once, and it was insane. The last time I was there, went to see a movie, it was a veritable ghost town.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
7. It is time for people to realize that they can actually
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:58 PM
Dec 2014

control their own lives when it comes to holidays. The commercial interests can only drive a person to shop ad nauseam and spend more then he/she can afford if the person allows it. There is nothing wrong with a family stepping back and putting holidays like Christmas into perspective and creating a more meaningful holiday experience instead of competing with the "Jones" to show who can spend more money.

Considering that the far right try to claim what a Christian nation we are it seems like, at Christmas, people are worshiping at the feet of the almighty corporations instead of being mindful of what the real purpose of Christmas is supposed to be about.

orleans

(34,049 posts)
4. my favorite part of the presents part of xmas is the surprise factor
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:23 AM
Dec 2014

i love surprising people (in a good way) and the anticipation of seeing a wrapped gift and then opening it and discovering what it is--i love doing that for my daughter--i loved doing that for my parents and all my friends back in the day.

funny surprises, good surprises, great surprises, etc.

doesn't always have to be "stuff" -- i'd wrap up money & specify what activities it was for or what restaurants or fast food places. sometimes i'd buy special food stuff & wrap that up too. or donate to a charity & have a card or something about it in their name. this year i didn't do anything like that. it was all "stuff" and all bought online.

i was very blah this year

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
6. Same here.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:46 PM
Dec 2014

Every year we say we are going to "cut back". Then it's Christmas and we go overboard like we do every other year. Now it's for the grandkids!

indivisibleman

(482 posts)
9. Yes, the grandkids do change things.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 03:28 PM
Dec 2014

Especially when their peers and relatives will ask them what they got for Christmas. You don't want to be a Scrooge now do you? I would like to call the whole gift thing off and just focus on the decorations and celebrations. Do simple, low cost foods and try to reign in all the spending. It is just too much.
We get gifts for our godchildren and what they want is expensive video game products that we can't afford. By buying something less expensive we fear we let them down but what are you going to do. The popular gifts today are just way too much.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
8. I have a friend whose family decided this year they would no longer do adult gifts
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:59 PM
Dec 2014

which had been increasingly expensive and overboard.

Instead, they decided to go--as a family--and pass out Random Acts of Christmas.
They put money--mostly $5.'s--in envelopes and took them to a local Toys 'R Us (in Dallas).
They each also decided to step in at a cashier and pay for the basket(s) of someone checking
out.

My friend said they had a blast. Everyone had surprised and amused and grateful looks when
they opened an envelope and found cash.

While they were waiting outside for the last family member to come out, one man came up to them
and told them that he was raising his kids alone, and that they had no idea how much it had meant
to him to have his bill paid for the toys in his basket.

They had so much fun and enjoyed what they did that they will do it again next year.

mopinko

(70,077 posts)
11. well, circumstances caused me to blow it off almost completely.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:29 PM
Dec 2014

it was sad, but it seems like it didnt make much impact on anyone but me.
but then, i havent been the one who did the big shopping since they grew out of toys.

we dropped the adult gifts in my family of origin long ago.

if there arent little kids around, it seems kinda silly.

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