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Related: About this forumCalifornia’s pension debt puts it $175.1 billion in the red
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KamaAina
(78,249 posts)pushed by those who wish to destroy public employee (i.e. union) pensions the way private industry destroyed their employees' pensions a generation ago.
TexasTowelie
(112,141 posts)It does represent debt that will most likely have to be paid over a 50-75 year time horizon.
However, it does not include the offsets for state contributions, employee contributions or investment income that is earned that time horizon. When those contributions are included in the calculations it is more on the order of a $2-$3 billion responsibility to the state each year during that time horizon. That is a burden that can be handled within the California economy.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The US Post Office got crippled in 2006 by the GOP forcing it to account, as current debt, 75 years worth of retirement benefits for each employee.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Kind of like how the US post office suddenly had a huge debt after they were forced to account for 75 years of benefits for each employee as debt.
Sadly, most Californians are all for slashing state government pensions. They don't realize the average state pension is only $13k/yr and state employees took a smaller salary than in the private sector in order to get that benefit. Private sector employees resent state employees' pensions because most private sector employees have no pensions.
Reminds of the old Russian proverb:
"My neighbor has a cow. I have none. I want his cow to die."
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)This is news I can use! Mahalo (thank you)!
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)...
Under requirements of the Governmental Accounting Standards Board, state and local governments nationwide are using the new calculation to report their unfunded pension debts. They also must now be included on the balance sheet alongside other government debts, such as bonds, claims, judgments and long-term leases.
As a result, California ended the year $175 billion in debt, up from $119 billion the prior year.
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The new reporting requirements allow state lawmakers and local government leaders to make more informed decisions about pension benefits, said Sen. John Moorlach, R-Costa Mesa, a certified public accountant who has been publicly highlighting pension costs as they're reported by local governments.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article66981632.html#storylink=cpy
Moorlach is a right wing tool.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Koch whores?
Throd
(7,208 posts)JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)...is the amount anticipated as payout which is not covered by employee contributions, planned state contributions based on payroll, and accrued earnings. That amount is, of course, entirely unpredictable but it is not unreasonable to assume that it is zero.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)"There's nothing available."
RepubliCON-Watch
(559 posts)Instead of cutting our social programs such as state pensions. Many Californians sadly don't get it, cutting pensions is precisely what austerity advocates want in their quest to privatisation.