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CA Teacher Tenure Ruling - Chris Hayes update (Original Post) Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 OP
I would go so far as to say Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #1
I get the impression that judges like legislators & unfortunately the Obama White House yurbud Jun 2014 #2
Kane's testimony is worse. Igel Jun 2014 #3
Teachers do not produce students. roody Jun 2014 #4

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
1. I would go so far as to say
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jun 2014

this "judge" needs to be disbarred. It's simply incomprehensible how much damage he's done and will have done if his ruling doesn't get overturned.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
2. I get the impression that judges like legislators & unfortunately the Obama White House
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jun 2014

are getting lazy about making up rationales to serve the rich and screw the rest, like it doesn't even matter if it's believable or makes sense, they just have to say something that vaguely sounds like it justifies what they want to do, and they don't even care if we buy it or not.

Igel

(35,197 posts)
3. Kane's testimony is worse.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jun 2014

And not challenged, at least not at Slate (which is where crooksandliars cribbed the crux of the OP).

If Treu had used Kane's numbers, instead of 1-3% he'd have used 5%.

The "1-3%" was, as far as I can tell, provided by the plaintiff's lawyers, not Berliner himself (at least not on the stand). Perhaps they originated with Berliner during discussions in private or during depositions. I don't see a point in quibbling with it. If it is shorthand for "teachers who consistently produce underperforming students" then where to draw the line is a detail. That standardized test scores are a prime consideration is "education" these days is sad but true. Thus spake NCLB. You don't pass the standardized tests, you are held back.

We'll see if it stands up on appeal.

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