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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:28 AM Jun 2014

This Corruption Trial in NYS is Making Me Sick

Alas: the devil is in the details. You have to really sink your teeth in to appreciate the seemingly mundane yet horrifying details.

The bottom line for this particular trial for me is that not only in the NYS political system hopelessly corrupt, but it essentially is a one party state. Or as Gore Vidal used to say of the national parties: "We have one party, The Money Party; with two right wings."

And Cuomo has the fucking GALL to disband the Moreland ( corruption) Commission!

From yesterday's NYT:

>>>WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. — State Senator Malcolm A. Smith had a Plan A and a Plan B.

He told two men who were working surreptitiously for federal authorities that he wanted to run for mayor of New York on the Republican line, even though he was a Democrat. Short of that goal, he wanted to be restored as the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, a position he had lost a few years before.

To pave the way for Plan A, testimony in his trial for bribery and wire fraud charges revealed, he wanted to try to cement Plan B to burnish his credentials. And so on Nov. 16, 2012, he met at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel here with the two government informers. One was posing as a businessman who called himself Raj but was really an F.B.I. agent who used the name Anil Modi. The other was Moses Stern, a Rockland County developer who, facing the threat of a prison sentence, had agreed to serve as a government lure and informer.

The three men talked about which state senators might need some incentives to support Mr. Smith. According to Mr. Modi, who testified Monday for a third day at United States District Court here, Mr. Smith pointed out that campaign donations might not be enough to sway some senators. Some, Mr. Smith elaborated, might want paid consultancies.


“Sometimes it takes cash, sometimes it takes checks, sometimes it takes a job,” Mr. Modi said in a recorded conversation.

“Right, right, right,” Mr. Smith replied.

Gerald L. Shargel, Mr. Smith’s lawyer, said after the day in court that the judge had alerted the jury that “Senator Smith is not charged with any conduct relating to senatorial elections.”

Nevertheless, the conversation was important not just for what it revealed about New York State politics, but because it was part of the “American Hustle”-style seduction by government informers to see how far Mr. Smith would go to secure the mayoral nomination.

On Monday, the jury heard Mr. Smith in a secretly recorded conversation talk to Mr. Stern abou
the rest ( if you can stand it) at: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/10/nyregion/New-York-jurors-hear-tapes-in-Malcolm-Smith-trial.html

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This Corruption Trial in NYS is Making Me Sick (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 OP
Politics is innately corrupt... TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #1
I realize you don't mean that literally, but.... Smarmie Doofus Jun 2014 #4
Some do, but a lot feel the priesthood beter satisfies those urges... TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #5
K&R.... daleanime Jun 2014 #2
Jurors in the corruption trial of Sen. Malcolm Smith watched a video captured by hidden camera of hi hrmjustin Jun 2014 #3
Judge Considers Declaring Mistrial in Malcolm Smith Case hrmjustin Jun 2014 #6
Jurors will make mistrial call in Queens Sen. Malcolm Smith’s bribery case: judge Read more: http:/ hrmjustin Jun 2014 #7
mistrial. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #8

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Politics is innately corrupt...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:44 AM
Jun 2014

or why else would someone want to go through all that work to get a job that doesn't pay much and subjects you to daily criticism?

The last Suffolk County Democratic convention I went to lasted about the half hour it took to tell us what had already been decided. I hear the Republicans have a slightly longer one, but booze is involved.

And, I'm still curious about the three people I know who got real jobs thanks to the Democratic county administration, but two of them have had their hours cut and one suddenly vanished from the corridors of power.



 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
4. I realize you don't mean that literally, but....
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jun 2014

... I hope that SOME people go into politics to advance particular ideas/ideals.

Yes... that can often be a cover for baser motives ( not just money but power and ego) which fact is often obscured from everyone, including the individual him/herself.

But just because it CAN be doesn't mean it is.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Some do, but a lot feel the priesthood beter satisfies those urges...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:51 PM
Jun 2014

Having observed a fe successful politicians up close, I do believe it takes a very special person with a very unusual skill set to make it, and the common desires for power, money, recognition, etc. are similar to Hollywood celebrity. They are not the prime motivators, but if you're not good them you are usually dead meat.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
3. Jurors in the corruption trial of Sen. Malcolm Smith watched a video captured by hidden camera of hi
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/nyregion/tape-at-senators-trial-shows-discussion-of-payments.html?ref=nyregion&_r=2

Jurors in the corruption trial of Sen. Malcolm Smith watched a video captured by hidden camera of him discussing paying GOP leaders for support of his never realized 2013 NYC mayoral run.
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